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Where they describe how to sterilize it: DO NOT mix those chemicals together (e.g., bleach + rubbing alcohol = chloroform).
by 762236 7y ago
Where they describe how to sterilize it: DO NOT mix those chemicals together (e.g., bleach + rubbing alcohol = chloroform).
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- Loughla 7y agoAnd while we're here, let's go ahead and get these others out for people to read: Bleach+vinegar = chlorine gas, Bleach+ammonia = chloramine, Bleach+rubbing alcohol = chloroform Just don't mix bleach with anything. And while we're at it, don't mix hydrogen peroxide and vinegar, either.
- jedberg 7y agoYou need to add an extra newline at the end of each equation so it doesn't run all on one line. Like this: Bleach+vinegar = chlorine gas Bleach+ammonia = chloramine Bleach+rubbing alcohol = chloroform
- Loughla 7y agoI like longer sentence structures and lists of connected items in that format. It's less blocky and easier for my brain to process connected items. I put commas in now for other humans.
- DonHopkins 7y agoOr bleach + diet coke + mentos.
- jhweoiru 7y agoOr to be even more generic, never mix a cleaning/disinfecting product with anything else.
- sirtimbly 7y agoThere goes my childhood entertainment.
- adrianmonk 7y agoAt least they didn't warn against the dangers of holding a match in front of a can of WD-40.
- mark-r 7y agoOnce I used some WD-40 sprayed on a paper towel to lubricate a retracting car antenna. When I touched the antenna I got a static electric shock, and the paper towel burst into flames in my hand. Good times.
- csours 7y agoAnd before anyone gets big ideas about the chloroform, it is not pure chloroform; it is generally contaminated by phosgene, which is truly terrible stuff.
- droopyEyelids 7y agoDuring a wasted youth I poured over hundreds of The Hardy Boys Casefiles, where they'd receive and recover from a traumatic brain injury 3-5 nights a week (getting "knocked out"). Thanks to your comment I now know the other nights, where they were not rendered unconscious by blunt trauma, but rather through a rag of chloroform, they were probably inhaling phosgene too. Those boys were sure putting their futures at risk!
- csours 7y agoHah, same. Between The Hardy Boys and silly TV crime dramas I think a lot of kids got the wrong impression about getting "knocked out". It turns out that pretty much anything that can cause unconsciousness is also likely to cause death or serious permanent injury.
- brodie 7y agoBut everyone knows a tap on the head causes instant unconsciousness!
- cakoose 7y agohttps://xkcd.com/1468/ https://xkcd.com/1468/ "Worrying"
- Zenbit_UX 7y agoCan you explain the chest wound on your right side part?
- rarrarrarr 7y agoIn the movies, a chest wound (like a gun shot) on the right side means, "Phew, it missed their heart!" IRL, that injury on either side is equally worrying.
- Avamander 7y agoIt is a bit sad that so many people miss or forget these important lessons in HS chemistry :P
- bragh 7y agoWasn't even told that about those things in HS chemistry in my time in my country, not sure why - considered too dangerous knowledge by educators? Only found out about it on 4chan and gasped on how easily we could have accidentally injured ourselves while cleaning our dorm bathroom.
- Loughla 7y agoI learned about these from the book "A Child Called It". When the abusive parent uses the bleach+ammonia mixture on him. Then I tried to figure out what else bleach could do. This is not a healthy line of experimenting for a dumb 17 year old. I 100% believe HS chem should teach this. Then at least you know what not to do.
- Symbiote 7y agoIsn't it very clearly printed on the bottle in your country? Here (I assume this is an EU regulation) it says "WARNING! Do not use together with other products. May release dangerous gases (chlorine)."
- kube-system 7y agoHere's a couple of typical labels in the US: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/2025dfde-c877-4043-b91d-9784760eba8f_1.e4371637d2a5cbd2e86ded8dd722ffce.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/2025dfde-c877-4043-b91d-978... https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/05122787-1991-4084-869e-755630b006fb_2.df5e0c8f14c7476c647f0ffe987f2942.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/05122787-1991-4084-869e-755...
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- lonelappde 7y agoPeroxide + vinegar should not be poured together. They are safe ONLY in dilute concentrations like spraying a bit of each onto a surface and then wiping. https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home/cleaning/tips/a32773/cleaning-products-never-mix/ https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home/cleaning/tips/a32773/c...
- TheSoftwareGuy 7y agointeresting, that's a new one I didn't know about. I've always heard the Bleach + Ammonia = Mustard gas, but not that one
- mys_721tx 7y agoBleach breaks down to chlorine, which in turn reacts with ammonia to form chloramine. Mustard gas has sulfur and cannot be synthesized this way.
- AnotherGoodName 7y agoChlorine based bleach is just one of the things that has the label "Bleach" in your household cleaning aisle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Classes_of_bleaches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Classes_of_bleaches
- mys_721tx 7y agoThe only sulfur containing bleaches in that list are potassium persulfate and sodium hydrosulfite. Neither contains chlorine. Furthermore, the synthesis of mustard gas is non-trivial. Those two chemicals are not enough to put the sulfur on a carbon chain.
- phyzome 7y agoIf you mix bleach with just about any other cleaning chemical, you get chlorine gas, or chloroform, or some other nasty chlorine-based poisonous fumes. (though not mustard gas)
- xmmrm 7y agoYeah, they should drop bleach from that list. It degrades the shield and it might just do more harm than good.
- rchaud 7y agoThe markup of the page has the following: <meta name="robots" content="NOINDEX, FOLLOW" /> So the page was made available for the intended customers only, healthcare workers who likely know how to properly use bleach to clean it. This page won't be indexed by search engines. Ironically, because it was posted on HN, it will appear, but as a link inside of an HN story.
- hinkley 7y agoOh boy. Haven't they been recommending a mix of bleach and rubbing alcohol for like a month?
- lonelappde 7y agoNo? They who?
- jshevek 7y agoIndependently, not together.
- giarc 7y agoAs an FYI, those methods do not result in sterilization. Sterilization techniques must meet specific parameters.