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If nothing else this seems like the type of data that you just don't want to collect. The PR and potential risks of what happens next massively outweigh any sor

by avs733 7y ago

If nothing else this seems like the type of data that you just don't want to collect. The PR and potential risks of what happens next massively outweigh any sort of value I could see this having given the situation around COVID. Just because you can doesn't mean you should

reaperducer 7y ago
It also seems like exactly the sort of information that the credit agencies would collect and offer for sale. As we have seen with their data breaches, they have no shame, and operating in a black box under the shield of "trade secrets" lets them do any slimy thing they want. PR might bring down a small company like Naborly, but Experian and the others are bulletproof.
- downshun 7y ago
  Posibly off-topic but I read these often here > (these companies) have no shame Companies have no morals. People have morals. Thus reframing 'BigCorp is bad' trope.
  - reaperducer 7y ago
    I think you're just splitting hairs. It's much easier, common, and not incorrect to say, "Company A does bad things" rather than "An important subset of the people at the head of Company A have enacted policies that caused bad things to happen."
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- avs733 7y ago
  They are shameless...but the big players also seem smart enough to do these things passively and quietly. If I put on my 'if I where an investor' hat...any CEO who would post a YouTube video basically asking for this data seems right now seems like so tone deaf action that I wouldn't want them making strategic decisions because they are so short term focused.
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adrianN 7y ago
What PR? The people who are negatively affected are not their customers.
- avs733 7y ago
  you're right...they are the public, as in public relations
hi_im_miles 7y ago
I don't really see a way for Naborly to be negatively affected by media blowback from this, considering their consumers are strictly landlords who only stand to gain from these kinds of features. I would agree that this behavior is sleazy, but it's par for the course under a property regime that prioritizes profits, interest, and rents.
- avs733 7y ago
  >Former Ontario Information and Privacy Commissioner (IPC) Ann Cavoukian called the practice "unconscionable." "If I were still the commissioner, I would be all over this," The blowback could just as easily include new regulation

by avs733 7y ago

reaperducer 7y ago

It also seems like exactly the sort of information that the credit agencies would collect and offer for sale. As we have seen with their data breaches, they have no shame, and operating in a black box under the shield of "trade secrets" lets them do any slimy thing they want. PR might bring down a small company like Naborly, but Experian and the others are bulletproof.

downshun 7y ago
Posibly off-topic but I read these often here > (these companies) have no shame Companies have no morals. People have morals. Thus reframing 'BigCorp is bad' trope.
- reaperducer 7y ago
  I think you're just splitting hairs. It's much easier, common, and not incorrect to say, "Company A does bad things" rather than "An important subset of the people at the head of Company A have enacted policies that caused bad things to happen."
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avs733 7y ago
They are shameless...but the big players also seem smart enough to do these things passively and quietly. If I put on my 'if I where an investor' hat...any CEO who would post a YouTube video basically asking for this data seems right now seems like so tone deaf action that I wouldn't want them making strategic decisions because they are so short term focused.

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adrianN 7y ago

What PR? The people who are negatively affected are not their customers.

avs733 7y ago
you're right...they are the public, as in public relations

hi_im_miles 7y ago

I don't really see a way for Naborly to be negatively affected by media blowback from this, considering their consumers are strictly landlords who only stand to gain from these kinds of features. I would agree that this behavior is sleazy, but it's par for the course under a property regime that prioritizes profits, interest, and rents.

avs733 7y ago
>Former Ontario Information and Privacy Commissioner (IPC) Ann Cavoukian called the practice "unconscionable." "If I were still the commissioner, I would be all over this," The blowback could just as easily include new regulation