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It is not binary. 5G doesn't cause coronavirus, airplane contrails don't contain mind controlling chemicals, vaccines don't cause autism, and the Earth isn't fl

It is not binary. 5G doesn't cause coronavirus, airplane contrails don't contain mind controlling chemicals, vaccines don't cause autism, and the Earth isn't flat. Those aren't worldview choices, those are facts. They aren't subject to opinion. It is a shame that mental healthcare has been stigmatized, that so few resources in mental health exist for those who need it, and that modern society has created such a profound loneliness that otherwise well people feel the need to attach to groups like this to fulfill a sense of community. But no, I welcome people I disagree with. 5G causing COVID-19 or it being a Bill Gates conspiracy is not something that is categorized by agreement or disagreement.

cbnotfromthere 7y ago
"5G doesn't cause coronavirus, airplane contrails don't contain mind controlling chemicals, vaccines don't cause autism, and the Earth isn't flat. Those aren't worldview choices, those are facts. They aren't subject to opinion." The problem with your black and white view is that it's bound to needlessly antagonize a lot of people. Let me give you two examples. 1) Are transgender ladies female or male? 2) Did USSR liberate Poland in 1944 or did it occupy it?
lonelappde 7y ago
How do you know what's fact and what's not? A novel prize is waiting for you.
- throwaway5752 7y ago
  You're confusing general and specific cases. Computer people should introspect more often, because we approach problems trying to solve them in general when an solving it for specific cases on a per case basis is called for. I can't evaluate any given claim as true or not, but I am perfectly comfortable evaluating the truth of the four cases I mentioned as well as millions of others. Further, I'm perfectly happy saying "I don't know". I'd probably be perfectly capable giving a 1-10 score on the truth of most things. Further, it would be perfectly approachable to use a variant of graph spectral theory (using pagerank as an example) to score people as sources of information. This isn't as hard as the generalized solution. I don't have to deal with Godel or Turing limits on the possibility of computability and provable truth to know QAnon is a bunch of lunatics and that I should ban them from a forum if I don't want them to ruin it. There are a bunch of things that are more borderline and what to include and not include is an editorial decision for community owners / moderators. Further, the "<bad actor> will abuse this and you'll be one the other end of it some day": guess what, bad actors will act badly. They will abuse the system anyway, there is no way to prevent that.

cbnotfromthere 7y ago

"5G doesn't cause coronavirus, airplane contrails don't contain mind controlling chemicals, vaccines don't cause autism, and the Earth isn't flat. Those aren't worldview choices, those are facts. They aren't subject to opinion." The problem with your black and white view is that it's bound to needlessly antagonize a lot of people. Let me give you two examples. 1) Are transgender ladies female or male? 2) Did USSR liberate Poland in 1944 or did it occupy it?

lonelappde 7y ago

How do you know what's fact and what's not? A novel prize is waiting for you.

throwaway5752 7y ago
You're confusing general and specific cases. Computer people should introspect more often, because we approach problems trying to solve them in general when an solving it for specific cases on a per case basis is called for. I can't evaluate any given claim as true or not, but I am perfectly comfortable evaluating the truth of the four cases I mentioned as well as millions of others. Further, I'm perfectly happy saying "I don't know". I'd probably be perfectly capable giving a 1-10 score on the truth of most things. Further, it would be perfectly approachable to use a variant of graph spectral theory (using pagerank as an example) to score people as sources of information. This isn't as hard as the generalized solution. I don't have to deal with Godel or Turing limits on the possibility of computability and provable truth to know QAnon is a bunch of lunatics and that I should ban them from a forum if I don't want them to ruin it. There are a bunch of things that are more borderline and what to include and not include is an editorial decision for community owners / moderators. Further, the "<bad actor> will abuse this and you'll be one the other end of it some day": guess what, bad actors will act badly. They will abuse the system anyway, there is no way to prevent that.