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Unfortunately, the enterprise world is still making extensive use of IE11. Here is the browser breakdown on an enterprise application I work on: https://i.posti

Unfortunately, the enterprise world is still making extensive use of IE11. Here is the browser breakdown on an enterprise application I work on: https://i.postimg.cc/cCbk34SR/Screenshot-20200407-083321.png https://i.postimg.cc/cCbk34SR/Screenshot-20200407-083321.png As of now, Bootstrap 5 cannot be considered for use in any website with heavy use from enterprise users. Edit: though it is nice to see that Chromium Edge is already catching up to Spartan Edge!

speedgoose 7y ago
It depends. At work we decided to not support IE11 for a product and all the users understand that they need to use something else than IE. So the breakdown is pretty much 0% for IE. It's another story if you are selling, but if the users must use your application, they will click on the other blue e icon.
- x3haloed 7y ago
  Unless of course the "other" blue E icon is unavailable because they are on Windows 7 without administrative rights to install Chromium Edge, or Edge has been flat out disabled through group policy. https://i.postimg.cc/FzBj9Ttp/Screenshot-20200407-084447.png https://i.postimg.cc/FzBj9Ttp/Screenshot-20200407-084447.png
  - speedgoose 7y ago
    Then it's unfortunate but we don't support such setup. They can pay if they want us to support IE11 though.
    - vntok 7y ago
      Well that's the point of the parent commenter though, right? How do you intend to support IE11 while using Bootstrap 5, even if the client offers to pay you?
      - speedgoose 7y ago
        If they really insist, they will be quoted a rewrite to another framework, plus more because we will hate to do that. In practice we find solutions, such as installing chrome or using mobile devices. I know it depends on the domain and the country, but companies with outdated desktop pc running only internet explorer are becoming rare. We prefer to refuse one of them than wasting time supporting outdated environments.
  - will4274 7y ago
    Is there any good reason to disable Edge through group policy? I'm more receptive to backwards compatibility concerns than some in the thread. But when IT admins have new software available, disable and block it arbitrarily, and then complain that new services aren't supported by the old software, I lose my patience. The only reason anybody has ever given me for disabling Edge is that users find it confusing. If you haven't educated your users on Edge and feel that they are only appropriately trained for IE for the past 5 years, you're not really trying to roll forward with the industry and you're going to be left behind due to your own stupidity. No sympathy.
duhi88 7y ago
Seems fine to me. There's still Bootstrap 1-4 to build outdated websites for outdated browsers with. We gotta move forward. The web can't be held hostage over decade old corporate contracts.
some-guy 7y ago
Our enterprise app has similar numbers (20 million unique monthly user sessions). There’s literally nothing we can do about it either—if a large number of Fortune 500 customers say we must support it, we have to keep supporting it, period. It has gotten to the point where IE11 in a VM is my main browser for testing and debugging.

speedgoose 7y ago

It depends. At work we decided to not support IE11 for a product and all the users understand that they need to use something else than IE. So the breakdown is pretty much 0% for IE. It's another story if you are selling, but if the users must use your application, they will click on the other blue e icon.

x3haloed 7y ago
Unless of course the "other" blue E icon is unavailable because they are on Windows 7 without administrative rights to install Chromium Edge, or Edge has been flat out disabled through group policy. https://i.postimg.cc/FzBj9Ttp/Screenshot-20200407-084447.png https://i.postimg.cc/FzBj9Ttp/Screenshot-20200407-084447.png
- speedgoose 7y ago
  Then it's unfortunate but we don't support such setup. They can pay if they want us to support IE11 though.
  - vntok 7y ago
    Well that's the point of the parent commenter though, right? How do you intend to support IE11 while using Bootstrap 5, even if the client offers to pay you?
    - speedgoose 7y ago
      If they really insist, they will be quoted a rewrite to another framework, plus more because we will hate to do that. In practice we find solutions, such as installing chrome or using mobile devices. I know it depends on the domain and the country, but companies with outdated desktop pc running only internet explorer are becoming rare. We prefer to refuse one of them than wasting time supporting outdated environments.
- will4274 7y ago
  Is there any good reason to disable Edge through group policy? I'm more receptive to backwards compatibility concerns than some in the thread. But when IT admins have new software available, disable and block it arbitrarily, and then complain that new services aren't supported by the old software, I lose my patience. The only reason anybody has ever given me for disabling Edge is that users find it confusing. If you haven't educated your users on Edge and feel that they are only appropriately trained for IE for the past 5 years, you're not really trying to roll forward with the industry and you're going to be left behind due to your own stupidity. No sympathy.

duhi88 7y ago

Seems fine to me. There's still Bootstrap 1-4 to build outdated websites for outdated browsers with. We gotta move forward. The web can't be held hostage over decade old corporate contracts.

some-guy 7y ago

Our enterprise app has similar numbers (20 million unique monthly user sessions). There’s literally nothing we can do about it either—if a large number of Fortune 500 customers say we must support it, we have to keep supporting it, period. It has gotten to the point where IE11 in a VM is my main browser for testing and debugging.