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Extinction Rebellion switched to Jitsi, Matrix etc. From the slide at t=2078: .organise.earth .rebellion.global

Extinction Rebellion switched to Jitsi, Matrix etc. From the slide at t=2078: *.organise.earth *.rebellion.global OWN3D OWNED (self hosted) Team Chat Slack Mattermost (Team Edition) Cloud Storage Google Drive Nextcloud (2 instances) Collaborative docs Google docs Only Office Etherpad-Lite Surveys Google Forms LimeSurvey Video Conferencing Zoom Jitsi-Meet Webmail Gmail, etc Rainloop (Postfix, Dovecot) Collaborative Dev Github gitlab Mailinglist manager Mail Chimp Mailtrain Actions/Operations WhatsApp, Skype Signal, Wire Social Twitter Mastodon Video Youtube Peertube Site Jekyll Admin Gender Bros Any https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-11008-server_infrastructure_for_global_rebellion#t=2078 https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-11008-server_infrastructure_for_... > In this talk Julian will outline his work as sysadmin, systems and security architect for the climate and environmental defense movement Extinction Rebellion. Responsible for 30 server deployments in 11 months, including a community hub spanning dozens of national teams (some of which operate in extremely hostile conditions), he will show why community-owned free and open source infrastructure is mission-critical for the growth, success and safety of global civil disobedience movements.

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
“Admin Gender”?
- martin_a 7y ago
  I think it's more of a joke with the "we changed from second column to third column"-thing that's going on in that list.
- smartbit 7y ago
  It's a copy from the screen for your convenience. Click on the link to see yourselves. I've updated the list to remove the misunderstanding Extinction Rebellion is fostering Inclusion & Diversity, I think is what he is trying to say. If you don't like what Julian wrote, please contact him.
edhelas 7y ago
Nope, it's actually written in your own post, XR is using Mattermost for the chat. Not Matrix :)
- trynewideas 7y ago
  Video Conferencing Zoom Jitsi-Meet
sneak 7y ago
I am on board with this stack 100% and have been recommending Mattermost myself. Imagine my disappointment when I found out that Mattermost, even the self-hosted one, is spyware. They call it "Diagnostics" to hide its true purpose, but really it's phone-home. Silently and with no notification, on f/oss self-hosted software; it's really a letdown. To disable it, you must use the following entirely undocumented environment variables: MM_LOGSETTINGS_ENABLEDIAGNOSTICS=false MM_SERVICESETTINGS_ENABLESECURITYFIXALERT=false I go the further step of using a small Dockerfile that contains the following to patch the binary itself: FROM mattermost/mattermost-team-edition:latest RUN sed -i 's#api.segment.io#xx.example.com#gI' /mattermost/bin/mattermost RUN sed -i 's#securityupdatecheck.mattermost.com#xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.example.com#gI' /mattermost/bin/mattermost
- Arathorn 7y ago
  You might want to consider Matrix, where admittedly we do have phone-home stats, but you have to explicitly opt in to them during installation if you want to participate. (https://youtu.be/dDddKmdLEdg?t=605 https://youtu.be/dDddKmdLEdg?t=605 in the video in the original post here)
  - sneak 7y ago
    Yeah, opt-in is fine. It’s when it happens silently and automatically that software becomes unethical. I am always surprised to find that kind of spying in self-hosted apps. People self-host specifically to keep their data private!
  - kgwxd 7y ago
    I'd like to see this idea implemented at compile time. Don't opt-in and the code that does it doesn't even exist in the binary. That way there's no worry a logical error in the code could accidentally ignore the choice.
  - giggles_giggles 7y ago
    If you use the Matrix identity server, which is required to have federation, the 3rd party identity server operated by the Matrix organization retains a list of your usernames. They don't tell you up front about this, either, and I think silently leaking a username list is pretty bad. You have to really pay attention during setup to realize that the federation technology relies on a bastion operated by matrix.org. The identity server is optional and you can use your own, but you will lose the federation that Matrix is so proud of, and the instructions to set up the reference home server don't make it clear that this is necessary in order to avoid a leak of your users' identities. https://vector.im/identity-server-privacy-notice https://vector.im/identity-server-privacy-notice

Extinction Rebellion switched to Jitsi, Matrix etc. From the slide at t=2078: *.organise.earth *.rebellion.global

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago

“Admin Gender”?

martin_a 7y ago
I think it's more of a joke with the "we changed from second column to third column"-thing that's going on in that list.
smartbit 7y ago
It's a copy from the screen for your convenience. Click on the link to see yourselves. I've updated the list to remove the misunderstanding Extinction Rebellion is fostering Inclusion & Diversity, I think is what he is trying to say. If you don't like what Julian wrote, please contact him.

edhelas 7y ago

Nope, it's actually written in your own post, XR is using Mattermost for the chat. Not Matrix :)

trynewideas 7y ago
Video Conferencing Zoom Jitsi-Meet

sneak 7y ago

I am on board with this stack 100% and have been recommending Mattermost myself. Imagine my disappointment when I found out that Mattermost, even the self-hosted one, is spyware. They call it "Diagnostics" to hide its true purpose, but really it's phone-home. Silently and with no notification, on f/oss self-hosted software; it's really a letdown. To disable it, you must use the following entirely undocumented environment variables: MM_LOGSETTINGS_ENABLEDIAGNOSTICS=false MM_SERVICESETTINGS_ENABLESECURITYFIXALERT=false I go the further step of using a small Dockerfile that contains the following to patch the binary itself: FROM mattermost/mattermost-team-edition:latest RUN sed -i 's#api.segment.io#xx.example.com#gI' /mattermost/bin/mattermost RUN sed -i 's#securityupdatecheck.mattermost.com#xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.example.com#gI' /mattermost/bin/mattermost

Arathorn 7y ago
You might want to consider Matrix, where admittedly we do have phone-home stats, but you have to explicitly opt in to them during installation if you want to participate. (https://youtu.be/dDddKmdLEdg?t=605 https://youtu.be/dDddKmdLEdg?t=605 in the video in the original post here)
- sneak 7y ago
  Yeah, opt-in is fine. It’s when it happens silently and automatically that software becomes unethical. I am always surprised to find that kind of spying in self-hosted apps. People self-host specifically to keep their data private!
- kgwxd 7y ago
  I'd like to see this idea implemented at compile time. Don't opt-in and the code that does it doesn't even exist in the binary. That way there's no worry a logical error in the code could accidentally ignore the choice.
- giggles_giggles 7y ago
  If you use the Matrix identity server, which is required to have federation, the 3rd party identity server operated by the Matrix organization retains a list of your usernames. They don't tell you up front about this, either, and I think silently leaking a username list is pretty bad. You have to really pay attention during setup to realize that the federation technology relies on a bastion operated by matrix.org. The identity server is optional and you can use your own, but you will lose the federation that Matrix is so proud of, and the instructions to set up the reference home server don't make it clear that this is necessary in order to avoid a leak of your users' identities. https://vector.im/identity-server-privacy-notice https://vector.im/identity-server-privacy-notice