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Rights so the Chinese pay hundreds of thousands of do,Lara so they can get F1 jobs (restricted largely to on campus or has to be study related, so it doesn’t pa

Rights so the Chinese pay hundreds of thousands of do,Lara so they can get F1 jobs (restricted largely to on campus or has to be study related, so it doesn’t pay), OPT jobs (capped at 1 year) or H1B jobs (needs to be renewed every year, at least by the Chinese who rarely get more than a 1 year extension), so they can get permanent residency after 10-15 years of being on an H1 based on current figures. Right, that makes complete sense.

yardie 7y ago
I see a large population of SE Asian students at a university nearby. I honestly have no idea why they are here. The university is an expensive, private school. The campus isn’t particularly beautiful. Just an office park. And it’s not even ranked that high. I’m befuddled why anyone would choose to go to a low tier university in an expensive city. The only thing that comes to mind is getting an American visa. Because simply having a prestigious degree from a no name uni does not make sense. Many years ago a friend’s family offered me $30k to marry her so she could get her green card. If students are spending upwards of $200k for a shot at a H1b than that marriage would have been a bargain in comparison. She’s happily married now with kids. And her spouse did not magically become $30k richer for it.
- thawaway1837 7y ago
  Marketing. And the fact that they are likely better than the universities most people would be exposed to in their home countries anyways, where the competition to get into the few decent schools is far more fierce. The not so good universities spend a ton of money on marketing. And some very good universities do too. The American education brand was strong a decade ago, so any American university would be considered good. Further, people outside the US are often surprised by how many scams are prevalent in the US. The general belief used to be that the US was a largely sensible country where people did things the right way.
tuankiet65 7y ago
> OPT jobs (capped at 1 year) Minor nitpick, you get two years of extension if you graduate with a STEM degree.
- thawaway1837 7y ago
  Only if your employer has already applied for your H1B. It’s 1 and a half year, and the reason it exists is (a) most students graduate and start jobs after the current year’s H1B process is already over, and (b) if you don’t get your employment visa in the first round (since it’s capped at 60k), then they want to give you a second chance.
  - tuankiet65 7y ago
    > It’s 1 and a half year [1] says that the STEM OPT extension is 24 months on top of the 12 month OPT. > Only if your employer has already applied for your H1B. Doesn't seem like so to me, the requirements for the extension are (from [1]): >> Have a degree in an eligible STEM field from a Student and Exchange Visitor Program-certified school that is accredited when the student submits their STEM OPT extension application to USCIS. >> Pursue their STEM OPT extension through an employer that is enrolled in USCIS's E-Verify employment eligibility verification program. >> Select a STEM OPT employer that provides the student with formal training and learning objectives. Work a minimum of 20 hours per week per employer. [1]: https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/stem-opt-extension-overview https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/stem-opt-extension-overview
LudwigNagasena 7y ago
That's right, the US residency is very valuable, people are ready to pay big money to live there.

yardie 7y ago

I see a large population of SE Asian students at a university nearby. I honestly have no idea why they are here. The university is an expensive, private school. The campus isn’t particularly beautiful. Just an office park. And it’s not even ranked that high. I’m befuddled why anyone would choose to go to a low tier university in an expensive city. The only thing that comes to mind is getting an American visa. Because simply having a prestigious degree from a no name uni does not make sense. Many years ago a friend’s family offered me $30k to marry her so she could get her green card. If students are spending upwards of $200k for a shot at a H1b than that marriage would have been a bargain in comparison. She’s happily married now with kids. And her spouse did not magically become $30k richer for it.

thawaway1837 7y ago
Marketing. And the fact that they are likely better than the universities most people would be exposed to in their home countries anyways, where the competition to get into the few decent schools is far more fierce. The not so good universities spend a ton of money on marketing. And some very good universities do too. The American education brand was strong a decade ago, so any American university would be considered good. Further, people outside the US are often surprised by how many scams are prevalent in the US. The general belief used to be that the US was a largely sensible country where people did things the right way.

tuankiet65 7y ago

> OPT jobs (capped at 1 year) Minor nitpick, you get two years of extension if you graduate with a STEM degree.

thawaway1837 7y ago
Only if your employer has already applied for your H1B. It’s 1 and a half year, and the reason it exists is (a) most students graduate and start jobs after the current year’s H1B process is already over, and (b) if you don’t get your employment visa in the first round (since it’s capped at 60k), then they want to give you a second chance.
- tuankiet65 7y ago
  > It’s 1 and a half year [1] says that the STEM OPT extension is 24 months on top of the 12 month OPT. > Only if your employer has already applied for your H1B. Doesn't seem like so to me, the requirements for the extension are (from [1]): >> Have a degree in an eligible STEM field from a Student and Exchange Visitor Program-certified school that is accredited when the student submits their STEM OPT extension application to USCIS. >> Pursue their STEM OPT extension through an employer that is enrolled in USCIS's E-Verify employment eligibility verification program. >> Select a STEM OPT employer that provides the student with formal training and learning objectives. Work a minimum of 20 hours per week per employer. [1]: https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/stem-opt-extension-overview https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/stem-opt-extension-overview

LudwigNagasena 7y ago

That's right, the US residency is very valuable, people are ready to pay big money to live there.