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Off-Topic: Can we ban links which redirect to advertising domains? When I click this link, due to uMatrix I see that it redirects to https://guce.advertising.c

Off-Topic: Can we ban links which redirect to advertising domains? When I click this link, due to uMatrix I see that it redirects to https://guce.advertising.com/collectIdentifiers?sessionId=3_cc-session_4cf21ef9-2a5f-4f96-9010-faca569779de https://guce.advertising.com/collectIdentifiers?sessionId=3_... Which doesn't sound like something I would want to visit.

encom 7y ago
Didn't happen to me (but it has before). Instead I got a huge modal popup about something, which I didn't read, so I hit `back` immediately. archive.[is,ph,li,fo,vn,md,today] is like a condom for crappy websites like that. https://archive.ph/agh5m https://archive.ph/agh5m
- m463 7y ago
  archive.* has some really strange dns-based tracking built in
  - gruez 7y ago
    Elaborate? Are you talking about the whole cloudflare ecs debacle?
    - m463 7y ago
      if you load archive.<x> it will load a cache-busting specific-to-you dns name your.ip.address.foo.lots.of.stuff.pixel.archive.<x>/pixel.gif that gets by most blacklists including umatrix and others and they have a new domain name dujour so that too.
  - Nerada 7y ago
    Anything on Archive.* fails to resolve for me for this reason; I just don't bother clicking their links anymore either.
alias_neo 7y ago
uMatrix also blocked the link for me. I'm at the point now where I stop bypassing it for links like this, and just don't read the article. The information in the comments is almost always more interesting/useful anyway.
Nextgrid 7y ago
I’m assuming the HN rules ban linking to spam and malware, so why is this malware (or more specifically spyware) allowed when it literally redirects you through a malicious link forcing you to provide consent (which is in violation of the GDPR) and probably collect a bunch of data considering the URL is named “collectIdentifiers”? For anyone replying with "you can just bypass it or block it", that isn't my point. We know how to do that but the majority out there will just accept the privacy invasion because they have no choice. My argument is that we should be blocking nasty behaviour to force sites to change if they want to keep HN's readership.
- lucideer 7y ago
  The primary difference between this spyware site and others that HN users don't object to is that it doesn't take your consent to be tracked as implicit. As in: others are doing the same, just in a more subtle, UX-friendly way that doesn't bother people as blatantly.
lucideer 7y ago
All properties owned by Verizon Media (formerly Oath) redirect through the domain "advertising.com" (which is one of the domains they own) for their GDPR consent popup (shared consent cookie set on one central origin across all properties owned by that company). This is a really bizarre decision tbh as "advertising.com" is not a well-known brand and not something their users would implicitly recognise or trust. For other users saying it doesn't happen to them, I'm fairly sure the redirect is region-targeted to Europe. I'm in Europe but I don't get this redirect when using a VPN.
- tushar-r 7y ago
  I'm in India and I get this redirect without a VPN.
stiray 7y ago
When i see guce, I simply dont visit the site. Voting with my wallet, if the site is so sleezy that it takes tactics like this on its users, it is not worth beeing its user.
MaxBarraclough 7y ago
Outline link: https://outline.com/wrUYpZ https://outline.com/wrUYpZ
- jshevek 7y ago
  This site would be better if anyone who submitted an article to Engadget (or similar) was prompted to instead submit an outline.com link.
Vrondi 7y ago
So, I run uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger, and with this combo, I got no redirect.

encom 7y ago

Didn't happen to me (but it has before). Instead I got a huge modal popup about something, which I didn't read, so I hit `back` immediately. archive.[is,ph,li,fo,vn,md,today] is like a condom for crappy websites like that. https://archive.ph/agh5m https://archive.ph/agh5m

m463 7y ago
archive.* has some really strange dns-based tracking built in
- gruez 7y ago
  Elaborate? Are you talking about the whole cloudflare ecs debacle?
  - m463 7y ago
    if you load archive.<x> it will load a cache-busting specific-to-you dns name your.ip.address.foo.lots.of.stuff.pixel.archive.<x>/pixel.gif that gets by most blacklists including umatrix and others and they have a new domain name dujour so that too.
- Nerada 7y ago
  Anything on Archive.* fails to resolve for me for this reason; I just don't bother clicking their links anymore either.

alias_neo 7y ago

uMatrix also blocked the link for me. I'm at the point now where I stop bypassing it for links like this, and just don't read the article. The information in the comments is almost always more interesting/useful anyway.

Nextgrid 7y ago

I’m assuming the HN rules ban linking to spam and malware, so why is this malware (or more specifically spyware) allowed when it literally redirects you through a malicious link forcing you to provide consent (which is in violation of the GDPR) and probably collect a bunch of data considering the URL is named “collectIdentifiers”? For anyone replying with "you can just bypass it or block it", that isn't my point. We know how to do that but the majority out there will just accept the privacy invasion because they have no choice. My argument is that we should be blocking nasty behaviour to force sites to change if they want to keep HN's readership.

lucideer 7y ago
The primary difference between this spyware site and others that HN users don't object to is that it doesn't take your consent to be tracked as implicit. As in: others are doing the same, just in a more subtle, UX-friendly way that doesn't bother people as blatantly.

lucideer 7y ago

All properties owned by Verizon Media (formerly Oath) redirect through the domain "advertising.com" (which is one of the domains they own) for their GDPR consent popup (shared consent cookie set on one central origin across all properties owned by that company). This is a really bizarre decision tbh as "advertising.com" is not a well-known brand and not something their users would implicitly recognise or trust. For other users saying it doesn't happen to them, I'm fairly sure the redirect is region-targeted to Europe. I'm in Europe but I don't get this redirect when using a VPN.

tushar-r 7y ago
I'm in India and I get this redirect without a VPN.

stiray 7y ago

When i see guce, I simply dont visit the site. Voting with my wallet, if the site is so sleezy that it takes tactics like this on its users, it is not worth beeing its user.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

Outline link: https://outline.com/wrUYpZ https://outline.com/wrUYpZ

jshevek 7y ago
This site would be better if anyone who submitted an article to Engadget (or similar) was prompted to instead submit an outline.com link.

Vrondi 7y ago

So, I run uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger, and with this combo, I got no redirect.