Yes, that's probably it, thank you. (There's a couple of brain cells in the back muttering that the page was less dense and tan colored, but I told them to shut

Yes, that's probably it, thank you. (There's a couple of brain cells in the back muttering that the page was less dense and tan colored, but I told them to shut up ;-) Now let's sell tickets to some cage fights, for instance http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Essays/Sudoku http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Essays/Sudoku versus http://norvig.com/sudoku.html http://norvig.com/sudoku.html P.S. The credit at the bottom of the J Sudoku piece led me here: http://www.vector.org.uk/ http://www.vector.org.uk/ . Seems an interesting place to visit. It even features articles headed "APL is not for programmers" (quote: "At this point the average programmer turns off, drops out, gets his coat and leaves the building, heading for mom and the kids. We, on the other hand, will continue.")