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Roussel et al., “SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data.”, Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Mar 19:105947, “Under these conditions, there does not seem to be a signific

Roussel et al., “SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data.”, Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Mar 19:105947, “Under these conditions, there does not seem to be a significant difference between the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries and that of common coronaviruses (χ2 test, P=0.11). Of course, the major flaw in this study is that the percentage of deaths attributable to the virus is not determined, but this is the case for all studies reporting respiratory virus infections, including SARS-CoV-2.” “Under these conditions, and all other things being equal, SARS-CoV-2 infection cannot be described as being statistically more severe than infection with other coronaviruses in common circulation.” “Finally, in OECD countries, SARS-CoV-2 does not seem to be deadlier than other circulating viruses.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32201354 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32201354

jshevek 7y ago
That style of quotation renders terribly on mobile. Preserving line width isn't helpful for non-code quotes. You can use ">" and wrap the quoted text with italicizing asterisks.
- Theodores 7y ago
  Victim blaming! We need to tell our HN moderator what CSS rules need to be changed to get this to work on all devices. Plus when adding a comment the syntax for the markdown should be given.
  - jshevek 7y ago
    My intention is to inform, not to blame. :) Otherwise, I agree with your suggestion [of providing more guidance on the reply screen] Until a better solution is implemented, would you help spread the word when you see code quotes used this way? Edit: I'm not sure that modifying the presentation of code quotes fully solves the problem, as we still benefit from having two types of quotes, wrap and nowrap.
  - leetcrew 7y ago
    it's for code, not block quotes of english. wrapping is off by design.
- vonmoltke 7y ago
  This particular quote renders badly on the desktop as well.
  - drummer 7y ago
    I'm sorry guys but it seems HN styled the quotes like that by itself. I did not add any markup.
    - jshevek 7y ago
      The markup which causes that formatting is easy to do on accident, as it is just whitespace: Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is reproduced verbatim. (This is intended for code.) https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
thaunatos 7y ago
> “Under these conditions, there does not seem to be a significant difference between the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries and that of common coronaviruses (χ2 test, P=0.11). Of course, the major flaw in this study is that the percentage of deaths attributable to the virus is not determined, but this is the case for all studies reporting respiratory virus infections, including SARS-CoV-2.” > “Under these conditions, and all other things being equal, SARS-CoV-2 infection cannot be described as being statistically more severe than infection with other coronaviruses in common circulation.” > “Finally, in OECD countries, SARS-CoV-2 does not seem to be deadlier than other circulating viruses.”
lbeltrame 7y ago
Note that this study is from Didier Raoult's group, the same doctor who brought out the (controversial, because not enough data at this point) claims on cloroquine - while I have no interest in defending or criticizing the work, some may want to keep this in mind.
jmull 7y ago
Please everyone disregard this quite disingenuous misinformation. This paper does simple math: attributed deaths / "confirmed cases" in "OECD" countries (not China) from January 1 to March 2. It includes such happy data points a "Spain: 123 confirmed cases, 0 deaths", which is horrifically, horrifically misleading. Johns Hopkins has Spain as 136,675 cases and 13,341 deaths at the time I write this. For the sake of the poster's soul I hope this is a bot gone unintentionally awry and not a real person posting this.

jshevek 7y ago

That style of quotation renders terribly on mobile. Preserving line width isn't helpful for non-code quotes. You can use ">" and wrap the quoted text with italicizing asterisks.

Theodores 7y ago
Victim blaming! We need to tell our HN moderator what CSS rules need to be changed to get this to work on all devices. Plus when adding a comment the syntax for the markdown should be given.
- jshevek 7y ago
  My intention is to inform, not to blame. :) Otherwise, I agree with your suggestion [of providing more guidance on the reply screen] Until a better solution is implemented, would you help spread the word when you see code quotes used this way? Edit: I'm not sure that modifying the presentation of code quotes fully solves the problem, as we still benefit from having two types of quotes, wrap and nowrap.
- leetcrew 7y ago
  it's for code, not block quotes of english. wrapping is off by design.
vonmoltke 7y ago
This particular quote renders badly on the desktop as well.
- drummer 7y ago
  I'm sorry guys but it seems HN styled the quotes like that by itself. I did not add any markup.
  - jshevek 7y ago
    The markup which causes that formatting is easy to do on accident, as it is just whitespace: Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is reproduced verbatim. (This is intended for code.) https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

thaunatos 7y ago

> “Under these conditions, there does not seem to be a significant difference between the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries and that of common coronaviruses (χ2 test, P=0.11). Of course, the major flaw in this study is that the percentage of deaths attributable to the virus is not determined, but this is the case for all studies reporting respiratory virus infections, including SARS-CoV-2.” > “Under these conditions, and all other things being equal, SARS-CoV-2 infection cannot be described as being statistically more severe than infection with other coronaviruses in common circulation.” > “Finally, in OECD countries, SARS-CoV-2 does not seem to be deadlier than other circulating viruses.”

lbeltrame 7y ago

Note that this study is from Didier Raoult's group, the same doctor who brought out the (controversial, because not enough data at this point) claims on cloroquine - while I have no interest in defending or criticizing the work, some may want to keep this in mind.

jmull 7y ago

Please everyone disregard this quite disingenuous misinformation. This paper does simple math: attributed deaths / "confirmed cases" in "OECD" countries (not China) from January 1 to March 2. It includes such happy data points a "Spain: 123 confirmed cases, 0 deaths", which is horrifically, horrifically misleading. Johns Hopkins has Spain as 136,675 cases and 13,341 deaths at the time I write this. For the sake of the poster's soul I hope this is a bot gone unintentionally awry and not a real person posting this.