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Paul is referring to Fox News: https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957?s=19 https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957?...

by Dowwie 7y ago

Nuzzerino 7y ago
Are you sure? I saw a different video where media outlets of all types were saying similar things. The infamous deleted "Vox" tweet where they said it would not be a deadly pandemic, for one example. I don't think linking a partisan outlet singling out a partisan outlet from the opposite side of the isle is a good way to treat this issue. PG apparently doesn't either, and didn't name names. Source: https://i.imgur.com/Tn0UtWT.png https://i.imgur.com/Tn0UtWT.png
- hangphyr 7y ago
  Many news media companies have been engaging in just that, trying to point out (hypocritically) where their competitors attempted to downplay the threat of the virus. It's not so much a problem with news media being wrong, it's a problem with most of them skewing towards pundit commentary and OP/ED's on the news, rather than just reporting the news. If the news media blankly reports what is happening, and avoided adding layers of interpretation on top of it, their reputations would be in better shape right now.
  - dominotw 7y ago
    > OP/ED's on the news What the stance of opinion pieces. ppl seem to say opinion articles cannot be judged because they are opinions by definition. I find that infuriating but i have to bite by lip and agree. eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22697313 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22697313
malandrew 7y ago
What Paul is describing pretty much describes most of the mainstream media, regardless of political bias. If anything, it's the rampant bias that has produced so many blindspots.
theandrewbailey 7y ago
Looks like a lot more outlets got it wrong: https://twitter.com/standwithPrager/status/1245408805690769409 https://twitter.com/standwithPrager/status/12454088056907694...
- licyeus 7y ago
  What's the timeline of media outlets figuring this out? Fox was downplaying / claiming this was a hoax as late as March 10 [1], whereas other outlets woke up early February (eg, the WaPo headline in your screenshot is from Jan 31). 1 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/on-fox-news-suddenly-a-very-different-tune-about-the-coronavirus/2020/03/16/7a7637cc-678f-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/on-fox-news-s...
  - e2021 7y ago
    De Blasio was telling people you couldn't get the virus on the subway and other nonsense well into March.
dominotw 7y ago
while those are most blatant examples. There are plenty of examples from left wing sites too. All those people seem to have simply gone "underground" eg: https://twitter.com/rojospinks?lang=en https://twitter.com/rojospinks?lang=en from the famous 'travel bans dont' work'. how do you know hes only referring to right wing websites?
bcrosby95 7y ago
Nah, Fox just clutched onto their ignorant statements longer than most media companies.
nimblebill 7y ago
What about the NYC Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot tweeting in February (https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1224043155852537863 https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/122404315585253786...): As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus. And then again in March (https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1234298344329093121 https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/123429834432909312...): Despite this development, New Yorkers remain at low risk for contracting #COVID19. As we confront this emerging outbreak, we need to separate facts from fear, and guard against stigma and panic. Or the NYC Chair of New York City Council Health Committee tweeting (https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1226566648729133056 https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1226566648729133056): In powerful show of defiance of #coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC's Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual #LunarNewYear parade. Chants of "be strong Wuhan!" If you are staying away, you are missing out Or Bill de Blasio tweeting (https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229 https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229): Since I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives + get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here’s the first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see “The Traitor” @FilmLinc . If “The Wire” was a true story + set in Italy, it would be this film. Or does it only count when its Fox News?
- beepboopbeep 7y ago
  Yes, those are mistakes as well. We don't have to delve into whataboutism in order to point out the wrongness of something.
thomas2718 7y ago
Some days ago I stumbled on this page: https://www.unfoxmycablebox.com/ https://www.unfoxmycablebox.com/. It says that Fox News finances itself largely by hidden subscriber fees which are part of a cable or satellite TV subscription. It proposes to write your provider that you do not want to support Fox News. For example, AT&T subscribers pay 24$ per year to Fox News. What do you think about it?

Paul is referring to Fox News: https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957?s=19 https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957?...

by Dowwie 7y ago

Paul is referring to Fox News: https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957?s=19 https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957?...

Nuzzerino 7y ago

Are you sure? I saw a different video where media outlets of all types were saying similar things. The infamous deleted "Vox" tweet where they said it would not be a deadly pandemic, for one example. I don't think linking a partisan outlet singling out a partisan outlet from the opposite side of the isle is a good way to treat this issue. PG apparently doesn't either, and didn't name names. Source: https://i.imgur.com/Tn0UtWT.png https://i.imgur.com/Tn0UtWT.png

hangphyr 7y ago
Many news media companies have been engaging in just that, trying to point out (hypocritically) where their competitors attempted to downplay the threat of the virus. It's not so much a problem with news media being wrong, it's a problem with most of them skewing towards pundit commentary and OP/ED's on the news, rather than just reporting the news. If the news media blankly reports what is happening, and avoided adding layers of interpretation on top of it, their reputations would be in better shape right now.
- dominotw 7y ago
  > OP/ED's on the news What the stance of opinion pieces. ppl seem to say opinion articles cannot be judged because they are opinions by definition. I find that infuriating but i have to bite by lip and agree. eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22697313 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22697313

malandrew 7y ago

What Paul is describing pretty much describes most of the mainstream media, regardless of political bias. If anything, it's the rampant bias that has produced so many blindspots.

theandrewbailey 7y ago

Looks like a lot more outlets got it wrong: https://twitter.com/standwithPrager/status/1245408805690769409 https://twitter.com/standwithPrager/status/12454088056907694...

licyeus 7y ago
What's the timeline of media outlets figuring this out? Fox was downplaying / claiming this was a hoax as late as March 10 [1], whereas other outlets woke up early February (eg, the WaPo headline in your screenshot is from Jan 31). 1 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/on-fox-news-suddenly-a-very-different-tune-about-the-coronavirus/2020/03/16/7a7637cc-678f-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/on-fox-news-s...
- e2021 7y ago
  De Blasio was telling people you couldn't get the virus on the subway and other nonsense well into March.

dominotw 7y ago

while those are most blatant examples. There are plenty of examples from left wing sites too. All those people seem to have simply gone "underground" eg: https://twitter.com/rojospinks?lang=en https://twitter.com/rojospinks?lang=en from the famous 'travel bans dont' work'. how do you know hes only referring to right wing websites?

bcrosby95 7y ago

Nah, Fox just clutched onto their ignorant statements longer than most media companies.

nimblebill 7y ago

What about the NYC Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot tweeting in February (https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1224043155852537863 https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/122404315585253786...): As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus. And then again in March (https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1234298344329093121 https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/123429834432909312...): Despite this development, New Yorkers remain at low risk for contracting #COVID19. As we confront this emerging outbreak, we need to separate facts from fear, and guard against stigma and panic. Or the NYC Chair of New York City Council Health Committee tweeting (https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1226566648729133056 https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1226566648729133056): In powerful show of defiance of #coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC's Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual #LunarNewYear parade. Chants of "be strong Wuhan!" If you are staying away, you are missing out Or Bill de Blasio tweeting (https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229 https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229): Since I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives + get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here’s the first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see “The Traitor” @FilmLinc . If “The Wire” was a true story + set in Italy, it would be this film. Or does it only count when its Fox News?

beepboopbeep 7y ago
Yes, those are mistakes as well. We don't have to delve into whataboutism in order to point out the wrongness of something.

thomas2718 7y ago

Some days ago I stumbled on this page: https://www.unfoxmycablebox.com/ https://www.unfoxmycablebox.com/. It says that Fox News finances itself largely by hidden subscriber fees which are part of a cable or satellite TV subscription. It proposes to write your provider that you do not want to support Fox News. For example, AT&T subscribers pay 24$ per year to Fox News. What do you think about it?