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So you wish that the digital world, a place where the majority of the youth are spending an ever-increasing amount of their time, to be subject to a culture we
by alharith 7y ago
So you wish that the digital world, a place where the majority of the youth are spending an ever-increasing amount of their time, to be subject to a culture we wouldn't tolerate in the physical world? Perhaps first define an internally consistent worldview. The reality is the internet isn't this blank space for hackers experimentation and exploitation anymore (used to be one of those kids by the way). It's becoming more and more integral to people's lives. It can cause real harm to people. It can even cause the loss of life. These things need to be taken seriously much more so than our childish notions of some anarchistic society of hackers and trolls doing as they please. Save that for the playgrounds and the skateparks. The real world works differently.
- zeepzeep 7y agoIf you leave a door open in the "physical world", someone will enter. If you have easy to exploit vulns, you'll be exploited. I tolerate that logic in the real life. Ofc the people who enter are bad, but there will always be bad people, so you're to blame for not protecting against them.
- Veen 7y agoThat is true, but it is also true that people are rightly punished for doing so.
- prophesi 7y agoWhen it comes to technology, I trust NP-hard problems much more than any government's court system. Rooms are password-protected by default. If it must be public, enable the waiting room feature (though there are currently undisclosed zero-day's for it).
- belltaco 7y agoApply that to the real world, if someone broke into your house with a battering ram you wouldn't report the theft and intrusion, and would just try to build a 6 inch thick steel door?
- prophesi 7y agoSure, if it was as cheap and easy as setting a password I'd gladly build a 6-inch steel door.
- runawaybottle 7y agoThey are not bad, they are just rascals. Must we live in a binary world? The kids are going to do this, implement some good moderator tools for the host of these meetings so they can ban ips, disable features. Those moderating feature literally exist because this is the reality of trolling since the beginning of time. We’re a community of mostly professional tech workers, and even we need shit to downvote and flag stuff.