> What struck me about it was not just how mistaken they seemed, but how daring. Really paul? You are struck by how wrong journalists and politicians are? They

> What struck me about it was not just how mistaken they seemed, but how daring. Really paul? You are struck by how wrong journalists and politicians are? They exist to lie and push an agenda. You've written in the past about the shady aspects of the news industry. And I seriously doubt you harbored any positive views of politicians. > These people constantly make false predictions, and get away with it, because the things they make predictions about either have mushy enough outcomes that they can bluster their way out of trouble, or happen so far in the future that few remember what they said. They make false predictions and get away with it because their agenda and the agenda of their fans/supporters line up. This is true of the fox side and the cnn/msnbc side. Have you forgotten about the predictions of yellowcake? The predictions of a short war in iraq? Remember mission accomplished? What about the predictions of a Hillary victory? What about all the predictions about trump/russia collusion? What about all the predictions that trump would be tossed from office/resign/jailed/etc? > And the tide has just gone out like never before. No paul. They've all been shamelessly naked sun bathing on the beach for everyone to see. It's not like they are hiding their bias. > Now that we've seen the results, let's remember what we saw, I doubt it. Just like people seem to have forgotten what a hack trevor noah is. In just the last few years, if people cared about being lied to, everything from Rolling Stones, NYTimes, WaPo, Fox news, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, etc would be out of business. Brian Williams lied at NBC and then got a job at MSNBC. Isn't that nice? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Williams#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Williams#Controversies I hate to say it but your post seemed more like an attempt to win political points rather than expressing disappointment in the news industry since you were already fairly skeptical of the news industry to begin with. http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html