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Don't use terms as "people in Germany" (implying all), "german people would vote" and "was never welcome (sic) by the people". I'm from Germany, I'm not pissed

Don't use terms as "people in Germany" (implying all), "german people would vote" and "was never welcome (sic) by the people". I'm from Germany, I'm not pissed. I wouldn't vote against the currency and was actually glad when it was introduced. qed.

fxj 16y ago
http://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/deutschland/0,2828,736655,00.html http://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/deutschland/0,2828,736... Jeder Zweite will zurück zur D-Mark Every second german wants the D-mark back Date: 27.12.2010
- sgift 16y ago
  From this follows that every second german doesn't want the D-mark back. Far from "people in Germany". Also, this poll was done after a big campaign by BILD (german tabloid) that other european countries are bleeding Germany, which probably skewed results in favor of abandoning the Euro.
  - yummyfajitas 16y ago
    Telling people the facts "skewed" results in favor of abandoning the Euro?
    - route66 16y ago
      How do you conflate a tabloid campaign with "telling facts"?
      - yummyfajitas 16y ago
        Sgift described the campaign as informing readers that other countries are "bleeding Germany" (presumably money, not literal blood). That doesn't sound inaccurate. Tabloid != incorrect, you know. Tabloid is merely a pejorative label applied to newspapers which don't attempt to hide their opinions.
        darklajid 16y ago
        Biggest newspaper, heavily self-opinionated. Even _if_ (big if, I don't buy it) the "the Euro is costing us poor Germans too much" would be right: What do you think what would be the outcome of a report like this for the following survey? They reach (according to Wikipedia. YMMV) > 12 million readers. If after their anti Euro campaign (again, ignoring the facts at all) still 50% of the population are in favor, how does this even remotely make the non-supporters a majority? Having done the numbers: The track record for facts from that specific newspaper is poor. Even if you like their agenda in this point, please don't implicate that they are NOT largely misleading (to avoid harsher terms).

fxj 16y ago

http://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/deutschland/0,2828,736655,00.html http://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/deutschland/0,2828,736... Jeder Zweite will zurück zur D-Mark Every second german wants the D-mark back Date: 27.12.2010

sgift 16y ago
From this follows that every second german doesn't want the D-mark back. Far from "people in Germany". Also, this poll was done after a big campaign by BILD (german tabloid) that other european countries are bleeding Germany, which probably skewed results in favor of abandoning the Euro.
- yummyfajitas 16y ago
  Telling people the facts "skewed" results in favor of abandoning the Euro?
  - route66 16y ago
    How do you conflate a tabloid campaign with "telling facts"?
    - yummyfajitas 16y ago
      Sgift described the campaign as informing readers that other countries are "bleeding Germany" (presumably money, not literal blood). That doesn't sound inaccurate. Tabloid != incorrect, you know. Tabloid is merely a pejorative label applied to newspapers which don't attempt to hide their opinions.
      - darklajid 16y ago
        Biggest newspaper, heavily self-opinionated. Even _if_ (big if, I don't buy it) the "the Euro is costing us poor Germans too much" would be right: What do you think what would be the outcome of a report like this for the following survey? They reach (according to Wikipedia. YMMV) > 12 million readers. If after their anti Euro campaign (again, ignoring the facts at all) still 50% of the population are in favor, how does this even remotely make the non-supporters a majority? Having done the numbers: The track record for facts from that specific newspaper is poor. Even if you like their agenda in this point, please don't implicate that they are NOT largely misleading (to avoid harsher terms).