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Fact is, you can't eat bullets or guns. Growing a garden and preserving food are not only valuable skills, but also good for you in so many other ways.

ThrowawayR2 7y ago
In the absence of police protection, how do people plan to prevent their gardens from being pilfered? Seems to me that both sets of skills are needed.
- qqqqquinnnnn 7y ago
  I have a hard time believing that the only thing that's keeping people from stealing shit is that there's a cop with a gun somewhere down the line. Is that the case for you? Or anyone else you know? If you know how to garden, help other people garden. That way your neighborhood will have enough food and might even be able to help out others that need it.
  - ThrowawayR2 7y ago
    > "I have a hard time believing that the only thing that's keeping people from stealing shit is that there's a cop with a gun somewhere down the line." How many news articles about porch pirates have there been? That's just the tip of the iceberg; I certainly have had a number of things stolen just outside my home over the years.
    - qqqqquinnnnn 7y ago
      Porch pirates are capitalizing on the fact that people order shit off the internet that costs a lot of money, that the goods will be replaced if they're stolen, and that people are not at their houses most of the time. In a post-apocalyptic wasteland, you really think you're gonna be spending a lot of time at the office, getting things drone delivered to your house?
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  - FlyMoreRockets 7y ago
    Guns vs Gardens. It's really about different mindsets. The argument for guns basically boils down to a zero-sum game mindset. It's all about taking or protecting a limited supply. Gardening is a positive-sum game. A single seed can produce tens to thousands of copies of itself. No other investment has such a high ROI.
    - qqqqquinnnnn 7y ago
      Agreed. I also think that humans are different now than they were 2000 years ago - we have a sense that great things can be accomplished peacefully, and have ways of going about doing it.

ThrowawayR2 7y ago

In the absence of police protection, how do people plan to prevent their gardens from being pilfered? Seems to me that both sets of skills are needed.

qqqqquinnnnn 7y ago
I have a hard time believing that the only thing that's keeping people from stealing shit is that there's a cop with a gun somewhere down the line. Is that the case for you? Or anyone else you know? If you know how to garden, help other people garden. That way your neighborhood will have enough food and might even be able to help out others that need it.
- ThrowawayR2 7y ago
  > "I have a hard time believing that the only thing that's keeping people from stealing shit is that there's a cop with a gun somewhere down the line." How many news articles about porch pirates have there been? That's just the tip of the iceberg; I certainly have had a number of things stolen just outside my home over the years.
  - qqqqquinnnnn 7y ago
    Porch pirates are capitalizing on the fact that people order shit off the internet that costs a lot of money, that the goods will be replaced if they're stolen, and that people are not at their houses most of the time. In a post-apocalyptic wasteland, you really think you're gonna be spending a lot of time at the office, getting things drone delivered to your house?
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- FlyMoreRockets 7y ago
  Guns vs Gardens. It's really about different mindsets. The argument for guns basically boils down to a zero-sum game mindset. It's all about taking or protecting a limited supply. Gardening is a positive-sum game. A single seed can produce tens to thousands of copies of itself. No other investment has such a high ROI.
  - qqqqquinnnnn 7y ago
    Agreed. I also think that humans are different now than they were 2000 years ago - we have a sense that great things can be accomplished peacefully, and have ways of going about doing it.