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UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson admitted to hospital over virus symptoms
- samizdis 7y agoUsually, one would expect that the British PM would be treated at home; no question of non-availability of resource etc. Hospitalisation might suggest, then, some serious problems with, say, breathing - perhaps necessitating equipment not easily installed in his residence.
- redis_mlc 7y agoVentilator use is similar to major surgery. It appears 66% to 90% of corona patients who are put on a ventilator will die. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/02/826105278/ventilators-are-no-panacea-for-critically-ill-covid-19-patients https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/02/8261052... So the whole "flatten the curve" thing is less useful than advertised.
- ksec 7y ago>It appears 66% to 90% of corona patients who are put on a ventilator will die. Is there a Data Source for this?
- rasz 7y agoItaly Cremona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfkbv_WQtn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfkbv_WQtn0 Italy Bergamo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suhYeWEcJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suhYeWEcJg Two hospitals, not a single patient survived ventilation/ecmo to date (two weeks ago).
- garblegarble 7y ago>So the whole "flatten the curve" thing is less useful than advertised. Although even if that percentage is right, flattening the curve is still important because if hospitals are slammed with Covid patients in various states of urgency then you're likely going to be failing to save a lot of patients with other ailments. Also you're saving the mental health of hospital workers who will be massively overworked and then be forced to endlessly be unable to do anything for patients and have to let people die rather than try to give them a chance with a ventilator.
- smacktoward 7y ago10% to 34% chance of survival is still a long chalk better than 0% chance of survival, which is what serious COVID cases would have if no ventilators were available.
- dempseye 7y agoI would imagine they are giving him an MRI.
- baxtr 7y agoIt could not only be because of treatment but because of diagnostics, eg taking a CT if his chest. I am not sure if it’s feasible to do CT Scans at home
- dean177 7y ago“I’m shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know. I continue to shake hands.“ Guess who said that a couple of weeks ago. I really hope this doesn’t kill him.
- andrepd 7y ago>I really hope this doesn’t kill him. I generally don't wish death for anybody but it would indeed be poetic justice. How many has he condemned to death due to his inaction?
- dang 7y agoYou can't post like this to HN, so please don't. If you don't feel you owe some individual better, so be it, but you definitely owe this community better if you're posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- netsharc 7y agoBTW he was just full of shit when he said that (arguably it's his default state), the hospital he visited didn't have any known cases of Covid-19 at that point in time.
- fallingfrog 7y agoNature ignores hubris. I don’t wish death or suffering on anyone, only that this enlightens him at least a little.
- dang 7y agoPlease don't do this here.
- fallingfrog 7y agoApologies, I thought that was a rather mild statement but I take your point.
- rasz 7y agohttps://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/27/i-shook-hands-with-everybody-says-boris-johnson-weeks-before-coronavirus-diagnosis-video https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/27/i-shook-... "Boris Johnson said he was shaking hands with coronavirus patients just weeks before he tested positive for Covid-19... Early this month, he insisted that people would be 'pleased to know' that the virus would not stop him greeting hospital patients with a handshake"