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Yeah, you can change the functionality of the button via the Bose app. However, the Bose app is awful.

chrismeller 7y ago
Sure, it’s less than ideal, but come on. There are far worse apps and it’s required to update the firmware. At least on iOS you’re also prompted to install it when you connect to the headphones for the first time anyway, so I would imagine adoption is pretty high.
- usmannk 7y ago
  I don't mean "it's not a high tech native experience with dark mode". I mean the app works poorly, all the time, and gets in the way of actually using the headphones. For example: whenever my headphones are paired with both my phone and laptop (because the app allows for two devices to be paired at once??) I have to manually disable my laptop in the app to listen to phone audio, the "drag down to connect" interface rarely works properly, etc. It really is a very poor experience when compared to BT headphones that don't require an app to manage their state.
matheusmoreira 7y ago
How does the Bose app talk to the device? Wireshark can probably be used to analyze it. Writing a simple free software replacement for the bad app could be a fun project and the result will no doubt be much better than their proprietary software.
- sigstoat 7y ago
  > How does the Bose app talk to the device? what options can there possibly be? it uses bluetooth. > Wireshark can probably be used to analyze it. bluetooth has reasonable security built in. bose products make use of it.
  - fulafel 7y ago
    There's a lot of protocols you can run over Bluetooth. The BT dump tool can be run on the bluetooth device (eg laptop, phone) and so get access to the negotiated crypto keys oe cleartext version of the comms.
- deivid 7y ago
  I have, at [1], though this is literally the first time I dabble in android apps, so quality is alpha at best. I use it frequently ant works for me though. [1] https://github.com/DavidVentura/Bose_QC35_Android https://github.com/DavidVentura/Bose_QC35_Android
m463 7y ago
Gah, then you have to run an app!

Sure, it’s less than ideal, but come on. There are far worse apps and it’s required to update the firmware. At least on iOS you’re also prompted to install it when you connect to the headphones for the first time anyway, so I would imagine adoption is pretty high.

usmannk 7y ago
I don't mean "it's not a high tech native experience with dark mode". I mean the app works poorly, all the time, and gets in the way of actually using the headphones. For example: whenever my headphones are paired with both my phone and laptop (because the app allows for two devices to be paired at once??) I have to manually disable my laptop in the app to listen to phone audio, the "drag down to connect" interface rarely works properly, etc. It really is a very poor experience when compared to BT headphones that don't require an app to manage their state.

matheusmoreira 7y ago

How does the Bose app talk to the device? Wireshark can probably be used to analyze it. Writing a simple free software replacement for the bad app could be a fun project and the result will no doubt be much better than their proprietary software.

sigstoat 7y ago
> How does the Bose app talk to the device? what options can there possibly be? it uses bluetooth. > Wireshark can probably be used to analyze it. bluetooth has reasonable security built in. bose products make use of it.
- fulafel 7y ago
  There's a lot of protocols you can run over Bluetooth. The BT dump tool can be run on the bluetooth device (eg laptop, phone) and so get access to the negotiated crypto keys oe cleartext version of the comms.
deivid 7y ago
I have, at [1], though this is literally the first time I dabble in android apps, so quality is alpha at best. I use it frequently ant works for me though. [1] https://github.com/DavidVentura/Bose_QC35_Android https://github.com/DavidVentura/Bose_QC35_Android

m463 7y ago

Gah, then you have to run an app!