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They might have many tools but they probably make them themselves or know by name the person who makes them. Out of close to raw material. (I’m assuming the Ami

They might have many tools but they probably make them themselves or know by name the person who makes them. Out of close to raw material. (I’m assuming the Amish don’t mine and smelt their own metals). One modern power tool could replace many of those Amish tools but it brings with it so many more dependencies.

anotheracct 7y ago
That's not true at all. In another comment of mine I discussed this. They generally get their equipment outside of the community. They are no longer self sufficient in the sense that you think they are. They might make some shit but for sure go to Costco and stuff like that. The costco close to where I live even has a place for their horse and buggies(which should be outlawed IMO. The cruelty to horses is undeniable and the Amish don't even pay road taxes). You have a big misconception about Amish. They are not minimalists in any sense of the word. Don't let the button thing fool you. They're just a shitty cult at this point.
- frosted-flakes 7y ago
  What are "road taxes"? Where I'm from, highway infrastructure is funded with general taxes (property or development taxes in municipalities, or federal/provincial income and sales taxes). There are additional taxes on fuel, but that covers only a small part of roaid maintenance. And the Amish definitely pay taxes, even for schools which they don't use. (An exception is social security in the US because they were exempted from the very start, but they can't collect it either.) Also, how is having horses pull buggies cruelty to animals? Horses are working animals, and it's no great hardship for them to pull a buggy or a plough. They can be overworked or treated roughly, but so can any animal.
  - samoa42 7y ago
    > how is having horses pull buggies cruelty to animals? horses are working animals pretty sure that horses would disagree ;)
frosted-flakes 7y ago
From what I understand, many Amish carpenters use plenty of modern battery-powered tools. There are different groups of Amish peoples, and some may be more conservative than others. It's not that they're against technology per se, but rather that they are very careful with introducing new things into their society that may be harmful.

anotheracct 7y ago

That's not true at all. In another comment of mine I discussed this. They generally get their equipment outside of the community. They are no longer self sufficient in the sense that you think they are. They might make some shit but for sure go to Costco and stuff like that. The costco close to where I live even has a place for their horse and buggies(which should be outlawed IMO. The cruelty to horses is undeniable and the Amish don't even pay road taxes). You have a big misconception about Amish. They are not minimalists in any sense of the word. Don't let the button thing fool you. They're just a shitty cult at this point.

frosted-flakes 7y ago
What are "road taxes"? Where I'm from, highway infrastructure is funded with general taxes (property or development taxes in municipalities, or federal/provincial income and sales taxes). There are additional taxes on fuel, but that covers only a small part of roaid maintenance. And the Amish definitely pay taxes, even for schools which they don't use. (An exception is social security in the US because they were exempted from the very start, but they can't collect it either.) Also, how is having horses pull buggies cruelty to animals? Horses are working animals, and it's no great hardship for them to pull a buggy or a plough. They can be overworked or treated roughly, but so can any animal.
- samoa42 7y ago
  > how is having horses pull buggies cruelty to animals? horses are working animals pretty sure that horses would disagree ;)

frosted-flakes 7y ago

From what I understand, many Amish carpenters use plenty of modern battery-powered tools. There are different groups of Amish peoples, and some may be more conservative than others. It's not that they're against technology per se, but rather that they are very careful with introducing new things into their society that may be harmful.