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Maybe I don't know the numbers. Maybe I only work for a startup because it allowed me some flexibility I wouldn't have had otherwise. Maybe I didn't know that a

by tjr225 7y ago

Maybe I don't know the numbers. Maybe I only work for a startup because it allowed me some flexibility I wouldn't have had otherwise. Maybe I didn't know that a global pandemic was going to shut down the economy. Maybe I'm fresh out of college and don't know better. Maybe I lost my last job and had to take this job because the other option was to go bankrupt. Who knows? My point is the same as it was in my gp; your attitude is grim and you're misplacing your negativity onto real people. This is the wrong time to do that. In this situation, there is only one explanation for schadenfreude and that explanation is that the person feeling it is an asshole. I'm glad I've only head the pleasure of speaking to you on the internet.

bsder 7y ago
> Maybe I didn't know that a global pandemic was going to shut down the economy. Then you are a fool. The tech economy crashes on 5-7 year cycles. See: Dot bomb. 2008 Financial Crash. Covid-19 in 2020. I can go backwards in time, too. 3D graphics card startup crash. Microprocessor startup crash. AI winter. etc. Too much money flows into the sector and then eventually the VC funds want it back. Roughly on 5-7 year timescales. Funny how that aligns with crashes, no? This time VC's changed tack--they won't put money into anything which produces a product so they can simply keep the shell game going. Presumably that's why this crash is a little late. If you aren't ready for this kind of cycling, you shouldn't be in a startup.
- tjr225 7y ago
  My point isn’t that you or the parent that I’m replying to are incorrect at all. You seem to be missing my point entirely. Feeling schadenfreude when a business fails is tantamount to being happy that someone loses their job. That’s fucked up- and I can’t believe anyone would be stoked about this. Seek help.
  - gxon 7y ago
    I don't see a problem in feeling good that a bad company failed and feeling bad that employees at that company are losing their jobs and going to suffer. Conflicting emotions are a natural result of complicated situations. This is part of why I think we need a much stronger economic safety net with UBI and universal healthcare. Too often, we protect objectively bad institutions and companies because of the very real need to preserve the jobs they provide. If involuntary job loss became a less disastrous event, we might be more keen to cut out waste and inefficiency in the system because we're no longer potentially destroying people's lives in the process.
    - rexreed 7y ago
      This is great insight. We protect bad companies because we want to protect good employees. In the process we reward bad management and bad investors and the good employees get shafted anyways.
- haihaibye 7y ago
  > crashes on 5-7 year cycles. See: ... 2008 Financial Crash. Covid-19 in 2020. 2020-2008 is 12 years. Your second piece of evidence contradicts your main claim. Try again
  - bsder 7y ago
    I already said that. VC's decided that they weren't going to fund anything hardware related this time. You can keep the shell game going infinitely with social crap built by 20-somethings to flog to the FAANG's because you can keep skimming until you hit your 100x. Now that the unicorns are finally busted, we'll see what the landscape actually looks like.

by tjr225 7y ago

bsder 7y ago

> Maybe I didn't know that a global pandemic was going to shut down the economy. Then you are a fool. The tech economy crashes on 5-7 year cycles. See: Dot bomb. 2008 Financial Crash. Covid-19 in 2020. I can go backwards in time, too. 3D graphics card startup crash. Microprocessor startup crash. AI winter. etc. Too much money flows into the sector and then eventually the VC funds want it back. Roughly on 5-7 year timescales. Funny how that aligns with crashes, no? This time VC's changed tack--they won't put money into anything which produces a product so they can simply keep the shell game going. Presumably that's why this crash is a little late. If you aren't ready for this kind of cycling, you shouldn't be in a startup.

tjr225 7y ago
My point isn’t that you or the parent that I’m replying to are incorrect at all. You seem to be missing my point entirely. Feeling schadenfreude when a business fails is tantamount to being happy that someone loses their job. That’s fucked up- and I can’t believe anyone would be stoked about this. Seek help.
- gxon 7y ago
  I don't see a problem in feeling good that a bad company failed and feeling bad that employees at that company are losing their jobs and going to suffer. Conflicting emotions are a natural result of complicated situations. This is part of why I think we need a much stronger economic safety net with UBI and universal healthcare. Too often, we protect objectively bad institutions and companies because of the very real need to preserve the jobs they provide. If involuntary job loss became a less disastrous event, we might be more keen to cut out waste and inefficiency in the system because we're no longer potentially destroying people's lives in the process.
  - rexreed 7y ago
    This is great insight. We protect bad companies because we want to protect good employees. In the process we reward bad management and bad investors and the good employees get shafted anyways.
haihaibye 7y ago
> crashes on 5-7 year cycles. See: ... 2008 Financial Crash. Covid-19 in 2020. 2020-2008 is 12 years. Your second piece of evidence contradicts your main claim. Try again
- bsder 7y ago
  I already said that. VC's decided that they weren't going to fund anything hardware related this time. You can keep the shell game going infinitely with social crap built by 20-somethings to flog to the FAANG's because you can keep skimming until you hit your 100x. Now that the unicorns are finally busted, we'll see what the landscape actually looks like.