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It seems like you have a point to make but it's not coming through. The comment you're replying to is proposing opening up the developer platforms to allow peop

It seems like you have a point to make but it's not coming through. The comment you're replying to is proposing opening up the developer platforms to allow people to sell their own stuff. > So has Amazon stopped people from selling their stuff on their own website? Yes, along with google. By monopolizing search. You won't ever be able to find Bob's home store online when they push their own stores and paid ads on top of everything else. Coming back to Apple, it definitely stopped people from selling their stuff. There is no way to load third-party apps on their platform besides the App Store. There is no way to provide payments (or even mention you sell stuff) without giving up 30% of your revenue.

scarface74 7y ago
Yes, along with google. By monopolizing search. You won't ever be able to find Bob's home store online when they push their own stores and paid ads on top of everything else. This shows a severe lack of imagination. Everyone by definition can’t stand out via organic search. Should you really start a business if your only customer acquisition strategy is SEO and organic search? In MBA speak “What's your unfair advantage”? And once again, there is an existence proof from dozens of companies that force you to pay for the service outside of the store to use the app. They aren’t just big companies. I mentioned before that the smallish B2B company I use to work at had an app on the store that required health systems to sign a six figure a year contract to use and Apple didn’t see a penny of it. Speaking of which, I’ve worked for four small B2B companies that had sense enough to not put their customer acquisition destiny in Google’s hands. They actually had a sales force, a contact list, went to industry events, published in industry specific journals, made sure they appeared in the upper right of “Gartner’s Magic Quadrant”, etc. It still amazes me how many excuses people make for not having a realistic customer acquisition strategy. Even on the consumer side how many B2C companies have become successful by advertising on relevant podcasts?
- etrabroline 7y ago
  >Everyone by definition can’t stand out via organic search He didn't claim everyone should stand out, his complaint is that organic search itself is being demoted and replaced.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Where exactly did he make that point? Exactly how is organic search being “demoted”?
    - etrabroline 7y ago
      Here: >You won't ever be able to find Bob's home store online when they push their own stores and paid ads on top of everything else.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        So what about Mary, Sue, Becky and the dozens of other owners of Home Stores. All of them can’t hope to be discovered via organic search. Who starts a business without a customer acquisition strategy? Being found on Google organic is not a customer acquisition strategy. Who starts a business without an “unfair advantage”?
- ricardobeat 7y ago
  This whole thread is about Apple & Google holding an unfair monopoly position and controlling distribution. Besides that being a lot more relevant for B2C, none of what you said goes against that (yes, Android still allows side-loading, riddled with warnings, only viable for business customers). No point being successful in marketing if Apple decides to summarily remove your app from the store for no good reason at all.

scarface74 7y ago

Yes, along with google. By monopolizing search. You won't ever be able to find Bob's home store online when they push their own stores and paid ads on top of everything else. This shows a severe lack of imagination. Everyone by definition can’t stand out via organic search. Should you really start a business if your only customer acquisition strategy is SEO and organic search? In MBA speak “What's your unfair advantage”? And once again, there is an existence proof from dozens of companies that force you to pay for the service outside of the store to use the app. They aren’t just big companies. I mentioned before that the smallish B2B company I use to work at had an app on the store that required health systems to sign a six figure a year contract to use and Apple didn’t see a penny of it. Speaking of which, I’ve worked for four small B2B companies that had sense enough to not put their customer acquisition destiny in Google’s hands. They actually had a sales force, a contact list, went to industry events, published in industry specific journals, made sure they appeared in the upper right of “Gartner’s Magic Quadrant”, etc. It still amazes me how many excuses people make for not having a realistic customer acquisition strategy. Even on the consumer side how many B2C companies have become successful by advertising on relevant podcasts?

etrabroline 7y ago
>Everyone by definition can’t stand out via organic search He didn't claim everyone should stand out, his complaint is that organic search itself is being demoted and replaced.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Where exactly did he make that point? Exactly how is organic search being “demoted”?
  - etrabroline 7y ago
    Here: >You won't ever be able to find Bob's home store online when they push their own stores and paid ads on top of everything else.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      So what about Mary, Sue, Becky and the dozens of other owners of Home Stores. All of them can’t hope to be discovered via organic search. Who starts a business without a customer acquisition strategy? Being found on Google organic is not a customer acquisition strategy. Who starts a business without an “unfair advantage”?
ricardobeat 7y ago
This whole thread is about Apple & Google holding an unfair monopoly position and controlling distribution. Besides that being a lot more relevant for B2C, none of what you said goes against that (yes, Android still allows side-loading, riddled with warnings, only viable for business customers). No point being successful in marketing if Apple decides to summarily remove your app from the store for no good reason at all.