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They completely skip over Schubert's patented "quick-cross-over to flat-VI" in the first theme. It's even followed by-- you Schubert fans already guessed it-- a
by jancsika 7y ago
They completely skip over Schubert's patented "quick-cross-over to flat-VI" in the first theme. It's even followed by-- you Schubert fans already guessed it-- a German sixth to sneak back to B-flat. So smooth.
Highlight reel.
Listen to the famous third movement of the String Quintet in C major. Where does it first modulate? You guessed it-- flat-VI. And after he stops on that German sixth chord, where do we go? Well, to G here, but that's just prep for the repeat signs back to-- you guessed it-- C major, baby! Yeah, Schubi ftw!
How bout the Unfinished Symphony in B minor-- where's that 2nd theme? Well ok, it's regular VI there but still... Schubert likes going to VI. It's his signature move. And if I start reading through one of his Lieder at random I bet I don't go 4 pages before hearing another such moment.
I like the idea of realtime notes, but you gotta have a pretty wide context for them to be anything more than an arbitrary collection of trivia for newcomers. That's a nice way of saying if you're a newcomer, you got to listen to a lot of music before things make sense. Just like you can dribble in one square meter of a basketball court and understand the game.
I mean, what could F# minor as a "distant key" possibly mean to a newcomer who hasn't had music theory? Without the context it's the musical equivalent of talking about some new software including "blockchain" technology. Maybe it means something significant. More likely in the context of mid-19th century harmony, it doesn't.
But if put on your Schubert jersey and get a season ticket, ask yourself-- how exactly is F# minor related to anything? Well, we started changing keys earlier by quick move to a sublime melody G-flat major. Any musician will tell you F# is just another way to spell G-flat. Wait a sec: Schubert took us to the minor version of that same key for the second theme. Minor-flat-VI. Holy cow!
Austria wins the championship! Austria wins!
- zweinz 7y agoYes, thanks for this. The modulation to G-flat and then the respelling to f# is absolutely stunning. I debated quite a bit about what to say here. I often dislike program notes that give a harmonic play-by-play, for exactly the reasons you say, but I was hoping to help build an intuition for what a "distant key" might sound like. If they hear it and are told it at the same time, maybe it'll register that it does sound foreign. But you're right that it's meaningful in the context of the earlier iteration -- I'll give some thought about what can be done here. Perhaps it's another layer or for another audience.
- jancsika 7y agoI think the main difficulty is the chasm between people who intuitively grasp that music can unfold over time like a novel can, and people who hear music as aesthetically pleasing sounds in no particular order. If we could somehow flip a switch to make the latter group hear what musical drama is like it would be equivalent to gaining a new sense. Like millions of people sheltered-in-place suddenly realizing they now have free access to tens of thousands of Netflix series written in their native tongue over the past thousand years.
- xrd 7y agoThe best blockchain comment ever on HN. You win!
- xrd 7y agoI wish you could make a video of your commentary over the piece in slow motion. Like an instant replay commentary from a sports show. I just love what you wrote here.
- jancsika 7y agoHave you ever heard the PDQ Bach commentary over Beethoven's Fifth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vHpeUO5mw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vHpeUO5mw
- wolfgang42 7y agoLive performance of the same, complete with referee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzXoVo16pTg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzXoVo16pTg