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Denmark. Norway. Singapore. New Zealand. Taiwan. The fact of the matter is, there’s too many people in America invested in a cynical notion that we should ex

by numair 7y ago

Denmark. Norway. Singapore. New Zealand. Taiwan. The fact of the matter is, there’s too many people in America invested in a cynical notion that we should expect the government to “fail,” which makes it easier to keep everything underfunded, which almost guarantees failure (random acts of heroism not withstanding). THAT, more than any single person, is what’s killing America. And that’s a bipartisan cancer.

not2b 7y ago
No, in the US there's only one party that is explicitly anti-government, anti-expert, expecting government to fail. The other party has its own problems (its progressive and centrist factions are are war with each other, for example), but they are different problems.
ikeyany 7y ago
The American people want public services to be funded, but that is not where money comes from. American politicians are far more influenced by big money than they are by their constituents.
makomk 7y ago
The Singapore model for tackling the coronavirus that all the American press were blaming the American government for being too incompetent to manage doesn't even work in Singapore, as it turns out - they're going full-on lockdown now, with all non-essential businesses forced to either work from home or close down.
appleshore 7y ago
Everything’s not underfunded. It’s a problem of how the bureaucracies and agencies are created.
vxNsr 7y ago
Lets go down that list shall we? Denmark - shutdown everything march 14th, same week that the US started shutting down, not sure what we could emulate there except more trust in government? I live in a large very liberal city that has voted blue for the last 40 years and we still have our mayor pleading daily with ppl to follow SIP orders. Norway - See Denmark. They have a slightly stronger federal government then the US and thus were able to use that power in ways that our Fed could not. Singapore - Whatever they were trying before it all failed and they are now doing a lock down that's actually stricter than ours, also the stuff they implemented initially was draconian and would never fly here, and didn't work there in any case. New Zealand - An island the size of New Jersey with almost half as many people (5 million), they still have 1000 cases. Not a lot the US could emulate from there. Only reason NJ has so many cases now is because of its proximity to NY and a certain demographic that still refuses to listen to SIP orders (See Bnei Brak for another ex., I'm pretty ashamed). Taiwan - If you looked at what they were doing to contain this you would know why it's not practical here. 1) they have a national citizen db. 2) That db can be cross referenced with their national healthcare system, 3) which is also cross referenced with everyone at every point of entry. 4) They also used cell phone data to track people's whereabouts. Not a single one of those things is remotely possible in the US. Some are outright unconstitutional others would require bills to be passed and 3-5 years of preparation. If you think the patriot act is wrong... well the fed being able to unilaterally cross-ref different db's and track law-abiding citizens wouldn't pass muster either.

by numair 7y ago

not2b 7y ago

No, in the US there's only one party that is explicitly anti-government, anti-expert, expecting government to fail. The other party has its own problems (its progressive and centrist factions are are war with each other, for example), but they are different problems.

ikeyany 7y ago

The American people want public services to be funded, but that is not where money comes from. American politicians are far more influenced by big money than they are by their constituents.

makomk 7y ago

The Singapore model for tackling the coronavirus that all the American press were blaming the American government for being too incompetent to manage doesn't even work in Singapore, as it turns out - they're going full-on lockdown now, with all non-essential businesses forced to either work from home or close down.

appleshore 7y ago

Everything’s not underfunded. It’s a problem of how the bureaucracies and agencies are created.

vxNsr 7y ago

Lets go down that list shall we? Denmark - shutdown everything march 14th, same week that the US started shutting down, not sure what we could emulate there except more trust in government? I live in a large very liberal city that has voted blue for the last 40 years and we still have our mayor pleading daily with ppl to follow SIP orders. Norway - See Denmark. They have a slightly stronger federal government then the US and thus were able to use that power in ways that our Fed could not. Singapore - Whatever they were trying before it all failed and they are now doing a lock down that's actually stricter than ours, also the stuff they implemented initially was draconian and would never fly here, and didn't work there in any case. New Zealand - An island the size of New Jersey with almost half as many people (5 million), they still have 1000 cases. Not a lot the US could emulate from there. Only reason NJ has so many cases now is because of its proximity to NY and a certain demographic that still refuses to listen to SIP orders (See Bnei Brak for another ex., I'm pretty ashamed). Taiwan - If you looked at what they were doing to contain this you would know why it's not practical here. 1) they have a national citizen db. 2) That db can be cross referenced with their national healthcare system, 3) which is also cross referenced with everyone at every point of entry. 4) They also used cell phone data to track people's whereabouts. Not a single one of those things is remotely possible in the US. Some are outright unconstitutional others would require bills to be passed and 3-5 years of preparation. If you think the patriot act is wrong... well the fed being able to unilaterally cross-ref different db's and track law-abiding citizens wouldn't pass muster either.