I mean, sure, but the fact that the objection is old doesn't mean it's wrong. While I wouldn't say there's a clear cutoff point in terms of time or employees be

I mean, sure, but the fact that the objection is old doesn't mean it's wrong. While I wouldn't say there's a clear cutoff point in terms of time or employees between "startup" and "not a startup," there's got to be some point at which we say "company X was a startup, but really isn't one now." Google was a startup, but we wouldn't call it one now any more than we'd call Apple a startup, right? How about Facebook? They're younger, they pushed that whole "move fast and break things" schtick. But with a billion users and worldwide offices and an actual corporate campus, I'm gonna say "no, not anymore," aren't you? So I think it's fair to ask whether Airbnb, a profitable company with 12,000 employees and annual revenues of $3B+ for the last few years, can really be called a "startup" now. They were a startup. But now? Eh...