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Are the working standards to a level you would feel comfortable working in? Would you personally be okay putting together smartphone products and/or pulling rar

by Klinky 7y ago

Are the working standards to a level you would feel comfortable working in? Would you personally be okay putting together smartphone products and/or pulling rare metals out of the ground? The alternative to a smart phone is a feature phone made in a similar factory, and the alternative to that is a landline, also made in a similar factory, and the alternative to all that is maybe a laptop with VoIP, also made in a similar factory... It's exploitation all the way down. When the markets only way to offer prosperity to some is to exploit and shaft others, while maintaining the position of elite classes, there is a problem.

fastball 7y ago
You say exploitation, I say more opportunity than they had before.
- Klinky 7y ago
  That doesn't answer the question at all. It sounds like you are saying you wouldn't work in those conditions. Why? Because the conditions are poor. Poor conditions with little alternatives... Hmm, one could say such situations are ripe for exploitation. Just because the alternative is potential death, it does not excuse exploitative practices.
  - fastball 7y ago
    I wouldn't work in a plethora of roles. In fact, the vast majority of "jobs" that have existed in the history of humanity I would prefer not to do. That doesn't mean anyone doing them is being "exploited". And if that is your definition of exploitation, you've reduced the word to be effectively meaningless.
    - Klinky 7y ago
      > I wouldn't work in a plethora of roles. In fact, the vast majority of "jobs" that have existed in the history of humanity I would prefer not to do. Examples and why would you prefer not to do them? Are they legally allowed in your country anymore? Is there a reason for that? Perhaps because they are now considered exploitative? > That doesn't mean anyone doing them is being "exploited". And if that is your definition of exploitation, you've reduced the word to be effectively meaningless. It sounds to me like you don't even have "exploitation" in your vocabulary, as your bar is so low, you wouldn't consider anything exploitative. Literally multi-nationals exploit labor law differences to extract cost savings, and obfuscated supply chains to launder the blood off the raw materials they put into products. This is exploitative. Perhaps you should just come to terms with the fact that you are OK with it.

by Klinky 7y ago

fastball 7y ago

You say exploitation, I say more opportunity than they had before.

Klinky 7y ago
That doesn't answer the question at all. It sounds like you are saying you wouldn't work in those conditions. Why? Because the conditions are poor. Poor conditions with little alternatives... Hmm, one could say such situations are ripe for exploitation. Just because the alternative is potential death, it does not excuse exploitative practices.
- fastball 7y ago
  I wouldn't work in a plethora of roles. In fact, the vast majority of "jobs" that have existed in the history of humanity I would prefer not to do. That doesn't mean anyone doing them is being "exploited". And if that is your definition of exploitation, you've reduced the word to be effectively meaningless.
  - Klinky 7y ago
    > I wouldn't work in a plethora of roles. In fact, the vast majority of "jobs" that have existed in the history of humanity I would prefer not to do. Examples and why would you prefer not to do them? Are they legally allowed in your country anymore? Is there a reason for that? Perhaps because they are now considered exploitative? > That doesn't mean anyone doing them is being "exploited". And if that is your definition of exploitation, you've reduced the word to be effectively meaningless. It sounds to me like you don't even have "exploitation" in your vocabulary, as your bar is so low, you wouldn't consider anything exploitative. Literally multi-nationals exploit labor law differences to extract cost savings, and obfuscated supply chains to launder the blood off the raw materials they put into products. This is exploitative. Perhaps you should just come to terms with the fact that you are OK with it.