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I was told it would cost $80,000 to redo all the windows in my house.
by iends 7y ago
I was told it would cost $80,000 to redo all the windows in my house.
- missosoup 7y agoThis feeds back into OP's point - the costs are loony. There's maybe 8k worth of materials and labour to double glaze a house (and that's still on the really high end), not 80. If the average Armenian can afford it, there's no natural reason why the average American shouldn't be able to.
- nikanj 7y agoArmenia did not spend the last few decades convincing it’s children that only losers go into trades, so the wages an armenian window installer are quite a bit lower
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> Armenia did not spend the last few decades convincing it’s children that only losers go into trades Doing labor has been stigmatized in most of the world for the last few thousand years. You could be excluded from "polite society" on the strength of a rumor that you personally produced goods you sold. Of course, for most of history, there were a large number of people who knew they stood at the bottom of society and so were willing to do these sorts of jobs anyway, but that's not quite the same issue.
- PaulDavisThe1st 7y agoMuch of the "progress" of the last few thousand years, and in particular the last few hundred, has been the move away from the sort "polite society"-centric policies and towards a model in which we recognize the value of so many different kinds of human activities. Besides, I think the comment you were replying to was really about the almost complete absence of post-secondary "technical education" in the USA, in particular when compared to countries like Germany.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> Besides, I think the comment you were replying to was really about the almost complete absence of post-secondary "technical education" in the USA, in particular when compared to countries like Germany. Are these two different phenomena? If there are more glaziers in Armenia than there are in America, is that because Armenia sends the message "glaziers are winners" and America says "glaziers are losers", or because America sends the message "no matter who you are, you're a winner, and therefore you shouldn't be a glazier" while Armenia is fine with telling its losers that maybe winning isn't for them and they should consider being a glazier?
- PaulDavisThe1st 7y agoIn a country that sends a clear message that "being a plumber is an important and rewarding job with above-median-income job", more people will entertain aspirations to become a plumber. In a country that sends the message "being a plumber means you're fairly stupid, have no other talents and are doing a nasty, dirty usless job", people won't aspire to being plumbers. Note that in the US at least, experienced & skilled plumbers are paid above median income (in some cases, a lot above median).
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> Note that in the US at least, experienced & skilled plumbers are paid above median income (in some cases, a lot above median). Something analogous is true in India, where men are willing to take substantial pay cuts (~50%) in order to hold a white-collar job instead of a blue-collar job. They do that because women don't want to marry blue-collar workers. Focusing on income levels in marketing to the men would seem to be misplaced.
- xnyan 7y agoA home's worth of windows and labor for 8k? What market is that?
- coryrc 7y agoYou may have been told that, but that is not a good offer.
- leetcrew 7y agothis is a bold claim from someone who was no other information about iends's home (overall size, number of windows, size/shape of existing windows, local labor market, etc.).
- karatestomp 7y agoWTF? Are they all non-standard sizes so you’d either need custom windows or extensive framing work? Usual replacement cost is more like $200-300 per window, installed, maybe somewhat more if you want something fancy, but not... thousands.
- kube-system 7y ago200-300 sounds like a good price for standard size double hung. I am guessing the person above got a quote for premium custom windows in a large house. I have odd-ball sizes in my home that aren't double-hung style, and basic vinyl double-pane windows were about 1,000/ea on average.
- mc32 7y agoI j know someone who replaced all their non-standard dimension windows on a 2500sf house with double pane windows and it was 30k. So 80k sounds high, unless it’s a really big house.
- aidenn0 7y agoIf you have stucco, then the stucco repair can exceed 10k on its own.