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The telecoms companies are still upset that they lost control of the protocols when IP became ascendant. The last time they tried to take back control was aroun
by grandinj 7y ago
The telecoms companies are still upset that they lost control of the protocols when IP became ascendant. The last time they tried to take back control was around 2006 when they came out with the ISO stack, a very awkward clone of TCP/IP. Speaking as someone who had to work with ITU standards like X.25 and X.400, I'd rather chew my own toes off then work with anything they come up with.
- temac 7y agoThe number of ITU standards is HUGE and some of them are good, and some of them are even still in use. Given the volume, they are necessarily quite heterogeneous and designed by distinct groups of people. Likewise for the IETF RFCs. Both attempt to address lots of layers of the stack, but I'd still consider IETF as more of an high level thing, and ITU more low level. At least where they succeeded, if only for a time. And given the development history, this is logical.
- notacoward 7y agoI think you mean the OSI (Open Systems Interconnect) stack, and it "came out" much earlier than 2006. I remember working with it myself in the early 90s. It's also inaccurate to say it was a clone of TCP/IP since many parts of that beyond simple packet formats (e.g. congestion control and routing) were still very much in flux at that time. Innovations were being made on both sides, and often transferred between the two. This was a time when DECnet and NetWare were still in use, and they also had their own heritage separate from TCP/IP. IETF was not the origin of every networking thought ever. But you're right that this is mostly about telecom folks not getting over their loss in the circuit-switched vs. packet-switched war, and that chewing off limbs would be preferable to working with ITU-specific standards again. ;)