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Lots of industries will not be the same for many years. For example people will not be going back to restaurants like they did. Their habits have changed and ma

by ss2003 7y ago

Lots of industries will not be the same for many years. For example people will not be going back to restaurants like they did. Their habits have changed and many people's attitude to being out with large groups of people is going to be changed forever. Same with tourism. Many workers will drift into different jobs and for other reasons not return to their former employers. All of their institutional knowledge is gone. Supply lines are broken and will not all turn back on at the same time. Many businesses will not recover from that. Plenty of economic activity will not be covered by the bailouts and those parts of the economy are now dead forever.

paul7986 7y ago
Exactly, especially the cruise industry. It may not even exist anymore after this. Until there is a vaccine that has proven effective ... wherever there was business where people gather is either cut 50 to possibly 100%. Personally, I've stopped getting any carry out (food not prepared by me in which I wash hands many times throughout) and do not go into the grocery store rather pick it up, put it away and wash my hands afterwards. Hopefully I'm going overboard but at this point who knows.
- jedberg 7y ago
  FWIW, it's been shown that you can't transmit the virus through food. Your only risk with takeout is the packaging it comes in. When we get takeout, I unload it outside into our own containers, using one hand to open the takeout and the other hand to handle my own container. For things I can't transfer, I wipe them with a Clorox wipe. Then everything gets wiped down again inside, just in case. It's a bit much, but it's been nice supporting our favorite local restaurants in the hopes that they still exist when this is over.
  - jefftk 7y ago
    > it's been shown that you can't transmit the virus through food Link? I've seen several things saying that there's no evidence it's transmitted via food [1] but nothing that rules it out. [1] "Currently there is no evidence of food, food containers, or food packaging being associated with transmission of COVID-19. Like other viruses, it is possible that the virus that causes COVID-19 can survive on surfaces or objects." https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-frequently-asked-questions https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coro...
    - Jommi 7y ago
      This just means that so far we have not identified it as a significant vector. Not that it's not physically possible.
  - paul7986 7y ago
    What u say might be true or might not ..too early to tell. Overall for me and I'm sure others preparing ones own food gives more peace of mind. Not good for those businesses/the industries surrounding it for sure but this is unprecedented times that I believe changes how we use to live and things enjoyed until there's a proven vaccine.
  - mongol 7y ago
    I don't understand. Why do you need to wash your hands but you can't get it through food?
    - jedberg 7y ago
      You touch your face with your hands and you can get it through your mucous membranes (eyes, nose). If it's in food though it goes into your stomach which is too warm and too acidic for the virus to survive.
runawaybottle 7y ago
All these things will be back to normal by next summer. But as far as this year goes, it’s a wrap. We’ll be lucky if people goto NYC for the holidays this year, visit Rockefeller Center and the tree, Broadway, etc. The biggest tourist spot in the nation is also the epicenter of the virus now.
- _trampeltier 7y ago
  No, clothing stores already had a difficult time recently. Now most clothing store just won't ever open again. What will they sale next fall. The spring clothes they just bought now? I guess the same is true for most other shops too.
  - Jommi 7y ago
    Why wont they open again? People will still need clothes. Im not sure what has changed?
ortusdux 7y ago
This will definitely hasten retails shift to the web. In 2018 the US had 23.5 sq ft of retail space per person. Most countries are in the 2-5 range. We have already been seeing malls closing as things shift online. This shutdown will definitely speed things up. https://www.businessinsider.com/retail-apocalypse-is-still-in-early-innings-cowen-says-2018-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/retail-apocalypse-is-still-i...
mrfusion 7y ago
I don’t think we have evidence of permanent changes in consumer behavior from this one way or the other?
Jommi 7y ago
Why would you think habits will change because of this?

by ss2003 7y ago

paul7986 7y ago

Exactly, especially the cruise industry. It may not even exist anymore after this. Until there is a vaccine that has proven effective ... wherever there was business where people gather is either cut 50 to possibly 100%. Personally, I've stopped getting any carry out (food not prepared by me in which I wash hands many times throughout) and do not go into the grocery store rather pick it up, put it away and wash my hands afterwards. Hopefully I'm going overboard but at this point who knows.

jedberg 7y ago
FWIW, it's been shown that you can't transmit the virus through food. Your only risk with takeout is the packaging it comes in. When we get takeout, I unload it outside into our own containers, using one hand to open the takeout and the other hand to handle my own container. For things I can't transfer, I wipe them with a Clorox wipe. Then everything gets wiped down again inside, just in case. It's a bit much, but it's been nice supporting our favorite local restaurants in the hopes that they still exist when this is over.
- jefftk 7y ago
  > it's been shown that you can't transmit the virus through food Link? I've seen several things saying that there's no evidence it's transmitted via food [1] but nothing that rules it out. [1] "Currently there is no evidence of food, food containers, or food packaging being associated with transmission of COVID-19. Like other viruses, it is possible that the virus that causes COVID-19 can survive on surfaces or objects." https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-frequently-asked-questions https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coro...
  - Jommi 7y ago
    This just means that so far we have not identified it as a significant vector. Not that it's not physically possible.
- paul7986 7y ago
  What u say might be true or might not ..too early to tell. Overall for me and I'm sure others preparing ones own food gives more peace of mind. Not good for those businesses/the industries surrounding it for sure but this is unprecedented times that I believe changes how we use to live and things enjoyed until there's a proven vaccine.
- mongol 7y ago
  I don't understand. Why do you need to wash your hands but you can't get it through food?
  - jedberg 7y ago
    You touch your face with your hands and you can get it through your mucous membranes (eyes, nose). If it's in food though it goes into your stomach which is too warm and too acidic for the virus to survive.

runawaybottle 7y ago

All these things will be back to normal by next summer. But as far as this year goes, it’s a wrap. We’ll be lucky if people goto NYC for the holidays this year, visit Rockefeller Center and the tree, Broadway, etc. The biggest tourist spot in the nation is also the epicenter of the virus now.

_trampeltier 7y ago
No, clothing stores already had a difficult time recently. Now most clothing store just won't ever open again. What will they sale next fall. The spring clothes they just bought now? I guess the same is true for most other shops too.
- Jommi 7y ago
  Why wont they open again? People will still need clothes. Im not sure what has changed?

ortusdux 7y ago

This will definitely hasten retails shift to the web. In 2018 the US had 23.5 sq ft of retail space per person. Most countries are in the 2-5 range. We have already been seeing malls closing as things shift online. This shutdown will definitely speed things up. https://www.businessinsider.com/retail-apocalypse-is-still-in-early-innings-cowen-says-2018-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/retail-apocalypse-is-still-i...

mrfusion 7y ago

I don’t think we have evidence of permanent changes in consumer behavior from this one way or the other?

Jommi 7y ago

Why would you think habits will change because of this?