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In case anyone's thinking of running some multiplayer games in the coming weeks and wants some more advanced economy metrics, I recently started writing a set o

In case anyone's thinking of running some multiplayer games in the coming weeks and wants some more advanced economy metrics, I recently started writing a set of patches to add a prometheus /metrics endpoint to the OpenTTD server to use with a grafana dashboard: https://github.com/grand-central-garbage/openttd-prometheus https://github.com/grand-central-garbage/openttd-prometheus (warning: grim c++ code)

GauntletWizard 7y ago
In a similar vein, I played a factorio game with https://github.com/afex/graftorio https://github.com/afex/graftorio - It was useful, but also un-useful as I ended up spending more time making pretty graphs than they could possibly have saved me in noticing resource bottlenecks.
- NikolaeVarius 7y ago
  I wanted to be productive this weekend. Shit
- kragniz 7y ago
  I think it's more interesting on an openttd server, because you're competing against other players, so the graphs inform you about their actions and how well you're keeping up with their economy.
  - deadbunny 7y ago
    Could that be classed as cheating or is this info already in the game? Note: Not passing judgement if it is, just curious.
    - kragniz 7y ago
      It's added as part of the dedicated server, and available for all players on the server. This kind of data is also available in game, but not as detailed.
  - m4rtink 7y ago
    AFAIK many OpenTTD online games are cooperative with many players building a very complex transport networks, usually with some objective. Like all with steam locomotives, bus network with transshipping, etc.
- Twirrim 7y ago
  Argh. Just what I don't need. _More_ things to make me want to play Factorio. The factory must grow....
zwayhowder 7y ago
I think you have won TTD :)
- rantwasp 7y ago
  hold on. you need to feed these metrics into a slack bot that tells you how much you suck in order to win
  - applecrazy 7y ago
    wait. now feed that to a neural network. that way you can win without any effort.
  - zeeZ 7y ago
    Your also need slash commands that deploy trains
dividuum 7y ago
That sounds pretty fun. I suggest you add some screenshots of what a dashboard might look like. (If I missed them, I'm sorry for the noise)
- aasasd 7y ago
  Grafana is a general-purpose realtime stats dashboard and you construct your graphs with it yourself—so for the examples you mostly can just see Grafana's site or search for images.
deadbunny 7y ago
This is fantastic. Now I need this for Rimworld...
locosage 7y ago
OpenTTD economy is not advanced enough to warrant such metrics :p And while it had been done before for citybuilder, hardcore players that can really appreciate it are no longer playing the game :( http://dpointer.org/data/ttd/stats30/ http://dpointer.org/data/ttd/stats30/
- Naga 7y ago
  What are those hardcore players playing now instead then?
  - IntelMiner 7y ago
    Factorio or Satisfactory possibly?
  - locosage 7y ago
    No idea rly. I know that some played starcraft before openttd xD And now most seem to be too busy with real life...

GauntletWizard 7y ago

In a similar vein, I played a factorio game with https://github.com/afex/graftorio https://github.com/afex/graftorio - It was useful, but also un-useful as I ended up spending more time making pretty graphs than they could possibly have saved me in noticing resource bottlenecks.

NikolaeVarius 7y ago
I wanted to be productive this weekend. Shit
kragniz 7y ago
I think it's more interesting on an openttd server, because you're competing against other players, so the graphs inform you about their actions and how well you're keeping up with their economy.
- deadbunny 7y ago
  Could that be classed as cheating or is this info already in the game? Note: Not passing judgement if it is, just curious.
  - kragniz 7y ago
    It's added as part of the dedicated server, and available for all players on the server. This kind of data is also available in game, but not as detailed.
- m4rtink 7y ago
  AFAIK many OpenTTD online games are cooperative with many players building a very complex transport networks, usually with some objective. Like all with steam locomotives, bus network with transshipping, etc.
Twirrim 7y ago
Argh. Just what I don't need. _More_ things to make me want to play Factorio. The factory must grow....

zwayhowder 7y ago

I think you have won TTD :)

rantwasp 7y ago
hold on. you need to feed these metrics into a slack bot that tells you how much you suck in order to win
- applecrazy 7y ago
  wait. now feed that to a neural network. that way you can win without any effort.
- zeeZ 7y ago
  Your also need slash commands that deploy trains

dividuum 7y ago

That sounds pretty fun. I suggest you add some screenshots of what a dashboard might look like. (If I missed them, I'm sorry for the noise)

aasasd 7y ago
Grafana is a general-purpose realtime stats dashboard and you construct your graphs with it yourself—so for the examples you mostly can just see Grafana's site or search for images.

deadbunny 7y ago

This is fantastic. Now I need this for Rimworld...

locosage 7y ago

OpenTTD economy is not advanced enough to warrant such metrics :p And while it had been done before for citybuilder, hardcore players that can really appreciate it are no longer playing the game :( http://dpointer.org/data/ttd/stats30/ http://dpointer.org/data/ttd/stats30/

Naga 7y ago
What are those hardcore players playing now instead then?
- IntelMiner 7y ago
  Factorio or Satisfactory possibly?
- locosage 7y ago
  No idea rly. I know that some played starcraft before openttd xD And now most seem to be too busy with real life...