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Software by an American Company[0] founded by a man who's been here since the 90s[1] is now "Chinese Tech"? Is everything from Paul Graham "British Tech"? Are A

by knolax 7y ago

Software by an American Company[0] founded by a man who's been here since the 90s[1] is now "Chinese Tech"? Is everything from Paul Graham "British Tech"? Are Apple Products now "Chinese Tech" because of their keyservers in China[2]? [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Yuan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Yuan [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insight/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears-idUSKCN1G8060 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh...

jaywalk 7y ago
Zoom also has over 700 employees in China.
- knolax 7y ago
  So does Apple.
  - jaywalk 7y ago
    At Apple Stores. Not developing their software.
    - knolax 7y ago
      https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=china-CHNC&team=acoustic-technologies-HRDWR-ACT+analog-and-digital-design-HRDWR-ADD+architecture-HRDWR-ARCH+battery-engineering-HRDWR-BE+camera-technologies-HRDWR-CAM+display-technologies-HRDWR-DISP+engineering-project-management-HRDWR-EPM+environmental-technologies-HRDWR-ENVT+health-technology-HRDWR-HT+machine-learning-and-ai-HRDWR-MCHLN+mechanical-engineering-HRDWR-ME+process-engineering-HRDWR-PE+reliability-engineering-HRDWR-REL+sensor-technologies-HRDWR-SENT+silicon-technologies-HRDWR-SILT+system-design-and-test-engineering-HRDWR-SDE+wireless-hardware-HRDWR-WT+apps-and-frameworks-SFTWR-AF+cloud-and-infrastructure-SFTWR-CLD+core-operating-systems-SFTWR-COS+devops-and-site-reliability-SFTWR-DSR+engineering-project-management-SFTWR-EPM+information-systems-and-technology-SFTWR-ISTECH+machine-learning-and-ai-SFTWR-MCHLN+security-and-privacy-SFTWR-SEC+software-quality-automation-and-tools-SFTWR-SQAT+wireless-software-SFTWR-WSFT https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=china-CHNC&team... Look for yourself how many postings they have for software and hardware positions in China.
throw445673 7y ago
I find it shocking that your comment is being downvoted. If Zoom is “Chinese tech” because of the CEO’s ethnicity, then I suppose NVIDIA and AMD are now “Chinese tech.”
- fangorn 7y ago
  I never said anything about ethnicity. Maybe "tech with critical security related software components developed and hosted in China, by Chinese nationals, thus clearly subject to draconian Chinese laws and potentially exposed to Chinese government and military influence" would be more precise. That's as close to "Chinese tech" though, as makes no difference. I would expect a more stringent approach to something used by a government to actually conduct "governing", and in the time of crisis at that!
  - knolax 7y ago
    https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/NVIDIAExternalCareerSite/1/refreshFacet/318c8bb6f553100021d223d9780d30be https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/NVIDIAExternalCareerSit... https://jobs.amd.com/search/?createNewAlert=false&q=&locationsearch=CN https://jobs.amd.com/search/?createNewAlert=false&q=&locatio... The Nvidia WeWork link might not work but you can look for job postings and filter for China yourself.

by knolax 7y ago

jaywalk 7y ago

Zoom also has over 700 employees in China.

knolax 7y ago
So does Apple.
- jaywalk 7y ago
  At Apple Stores. Not developing their software.
  - knolax 7y ago
    https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=china-CHNC&team=acoustic-technologies-HRDWR-ACT+analog-and-digital-design-HRDWR-ADD+architecture-HRDWR-ARCH+battery-engineering-HRDWR-BE+camera-technologies-HRDWR-CAM+display-technologies-HRDWR-DISP+engineering-project-management-HRDWR-EPM+environmental-technologies-HRDWR-ENVT+health-technology-HRDWR-HT+machine-learning-and-ai-HRDWR-MCHLN+mechanical-engineering-HRDWR-ME+process-engineering-HRDWR-PE+reliability-engineering-HRDWR-REL+sensor-technologies-HRDWR-SENT+silicon-technologies-HRDWR-SILT+system-design-and-test-engineering-HRDWR-SDE+wireless-hardware-HRDWR-WT+apps-and-frameworks-SFTWR-AF+cloud-and-infrastructure-SFTWR-CLD+core-operating-systems-SFTWR-COS+devops-and-site-reliability-SFTWR-DSR+engineering-project-management-SFTWR-EPM+information-systems-and-technology-SFTWR-ISTECH+machine-learning-and-ai-SFTWR-MCHLN+security-and-privacy-SFTWR-SEC+software-quality-automation-and-tools-SFTWR-SQAT+wireless-software-SFTWR-WSFT https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=china-CHNC&team... Look for yourself how many postings they have for software and hardware positions in China.

throw445673 7y ago

I find it shocking that your comment is being downvoted. If Zoom is “Chinese tech” because of the CEO’s ethnicity, then I suppose NVIDIA and AMD are now “Chinese tech.”

fangorn 7y ago
I never said anything about ethnicity. Maybe "tech with critical security related software components developed and hosted in China, by Chinese nationals, thus clearly subject to draconian Chinese laws and potentially exposed to Chinese government and military influence" would be more precise. That's as close to "Chinese tech" though, as makes no difference. I would expect a more stringent approach to something used by a government to actually conduct "governing", and in the time of crisis at that!
- knolax 7y ago
  https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/NVIDIAExternalCareerSite/1/refreshFacet/318c8bb6f553100021d223d9780d30be https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/NVIDIAExternalCareerSit... https://jobs.amd.com/search/?createNewAlert=false&q=&locationsearch=CN https://jobs.amd.com/search/?createNewAlert=false&q=&locatio... The Nvidia WeWork link might not work but you can look for job postings and filter for China yourself.