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It's because people are insisting on it's use. e.g. College Lectures giving online lectures. Employers hosting meetings. Normally you pick software to your pr

by s_dev 7y ago

It's because people are insisting on it's use. e.g. College Lectures giving online lectures. Employers hosting meetings. Normally you pick software to your preference but things like social media have strong network effects. This is the battle thats being fought. If you're going to make me use something I'm going to push back if it's not up to scratch. Otherwise I wouldn't care.

ilikehurdles 7y ago
I don't think that's it, otherwise we'd see mentions of software that is up to scratch, not the far inferior solutions from Cisco, Microsoft, and Google. I don't see any of these journalists suggesting an app with true E2E-encrypted video conferencing, chat, and screen-sharing. I had to google around a bit to find one -- "Wire" apparently claims to have E2E-encryption for video, but there must be some others.
Loughla 7y ago
But it is being used because of the networking effect. Just to speak from higher education - do you think colleges had zero connection to zoom before this? Anecdotal, sure, but I'm betting it's a good indicator - I work at a small, small, small, under-resourced community college in 'average' America. Zoom has been a thing on our campus for at least two years. We never really used it, because we didn't need to. Until about three weeks ago. We chose it during our crisis planning sessions, because they were already in our space. They got in our space years ago through clever partnerships and integrations with our learning management system (online course delivery platforms). They were the 'preferred provider' according to the LMS teams, both on campus and nationally. They have automatic integration with our accessibility tools for live transcriptions/captions and interpreting. They were the suggested provider by our professional organizations related to disabilities, under-represented students, and ease-of-use technology. Therefore, we use them exclusively now. Students never saw any of that back-end conversation, because it is literally irrelevant to their experience. But it was there, and it 100% impacted our conscious choice to move to zoom for live meetings. If we were targeted for all of this, with a student population of <2000, I guaran-damn-tee larger institutions were.

by s_dev 7y ago

ilikehurdles 7y ago

I don't think that's it, otherwise we'd see mentions of software that is up to scratch, not the far inferior solutions from Cisco, Microsoft, and Google. I don't see any of these journalists suggesting an app with true E2E-encrypted video conferencing, chat, and screen-sharing. I had to google around a bit to find one -- "Wire" apparently claims to have E2E-encryption for video, but there must be some others.

Loughla 7y ago

But it is being used because of the networking effect. Just to speak from higher education - do you think colleges had zero connection to zoom before this? Anecdotal, sure, but I'm betting it's a good indicator - I work at a small, small, small, under-resourced community college in 'average' America. Zoom has been a thing on our campus for at least two years. We never really used it, because we didn't need to. Until about three weeks ago. We chose it during our crisis planning sessions, because they were already in our space. They got in our space years ago through clever partnerships and integrations with our learning management system (online course delivery platforms). They were the 'preferred provider' according to the LMS teams, both on campus and nationally. They have automatic integration with our accessibility tools for live transcriptions/captions and interpreting. They were the suggested provider by our professional organizations related to disabilities, under-represented students, and ease-of-use technology. Therefore, we use them exclusively now. Students never saw any of that back-end conversation, because it is literally irrelevant to their experience. But it was there, and it 100% impacted our conscious choice to move to zoom for live meetings. If we were targeted for all of this, with a student population of <2000, I guaran-damn-tee larger institutions were.