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It's interesting that Permaculture is already more than 26 years old. It's got quite a number ideas that probably seem very controversial to the average garden

by fouc 7y ago

It's interesting that Permaculture is already more than 26 years old. It's got quite a number ideas that probably seem very controversial to the average gardener or small farmer. But the genius of Permaculture is that it's also way less effort. Work with nature, rather than fight it. Chop and drop. Pull out weeds then drop them on the ground, let it turn into mulch.

blunte 7y ago
> seem very controversial It's just a matter of experience and perspective. Many of the permaculture principles have been practiced since long before industrialization. In the scale of human existence, the current "normal" agriculture practices are abnormal, while permaculture is normal. Also, don't cut the weeds unless you have a very good reason. Even the definition of "weed" is questionable. Most of the time, the "weed" grows where it is actually beneficial.
- mceoin 7y ago
  Totally agree. "Permaculture" was really just Mollison - a genius and veteran biologist - collating all the best practices and strategies he had observed from land-based cultures, then codifying this knowledge of what works. (Hence, "permanent agriculture".) It couldn't be less controversial.
  - Jedd 7y ago
    > "Permaculture" was really just Mollison ... It really wasn't. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3961757-permaculture-one https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3961757-permaculture-one
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> It's interesting that Permaculture is already more than 26 years old. The date actually had me wondering. At what point do we start to refer to 1994 as the "1900s". We are already 2 decades into the 2000s, but it feels strange to refer to 1994 as the 1900s? Wonder which decade in the 1900s people started feeling comfortable referring to 1894 as "the 1800s".
- JdeBP 7y ago
  It depends from who "we" is, of course. Captain Man and his cohorts already do. (-:
- epistasis 7y ago
  That's true, and I feel the same about the oddity of referring to the 1990s as the 1900s In contrast, I think 20th century versus 21st century doesn't feel as wrong, and I regularly use 20th century to refer to time periods that include the 1990s.
Jedd 7y ago
> It's interesting that Permaculture is already more than 26 years old. It's interesting that, while the statement is technically true, you pick the number 26. Bill Mollison & David Holmgren published 'Permaculture One - A Perennial Agriculture for Human Settlements' in 1978. So it's not only more than 26 years old, it's also more than 41 years old.

by fouc 7y ago

blunte 7y ago

> seem very controversial It's just a matter of experience and perspective. Many of the permaculture principles have been practiced since long before industrialization. In the scale of human existence, the current "normal" agriculture practices are abnormal, while permaculture is normal. Also, don't cut the weeds unless you have a very good reason. Even the definition of "weed" is questionable. Most of the time, the "weed" grows where it is actually beneficial.

mceoin 7y ago
Totally agree. "Permaculture" was really just Mollison - a genius and veteran biologist - collating all the best practices and strategies he had observed from land-based cultures, then codifying this knowledge of what works. (Hence, "permanent agriculture".) It couldn't be less controversial.
- Jedd 7y ago
  > "Permaculture" was really just Mollison ... It really wasn't. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3961757-permaculture-one https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3961757-permaculture-one

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> It's interesting that Permaculture is already more than 26 years old. The date actually had me wondering. At what point do we start to refer to 1994 as the "1900s". We are already 2 decades into the 2000s, but it feels strange to refer to 1994 as the 1900s? Wonder which decade in the 1900s people started feeling comfortable referring to 1894 as "the 1800s".

JdeBP 7y ago
It depends from who "we" is, of course. Captain Man and his cohorts already do. (-:
epistasis 7y ago
That's true, and I feel the same about the oddity of referring to the 1990s as the 1900s In contrast, I think 20th century versus 21st century doesn't feel as wrong, and I regularly use 20th century to refer to time periods that include the 1990s.

Jedd 7y ago

> It's interesting that Permaculture is already more than 26 years old. It's interesting that, while the statement is technically true, you pick the number 26. Bill Mollison & David Holmgren published 'Permaculture One - A Perennial Agriculture for Human Settlements' in 1978. So it's not only more than 26 years old, it's also more than 41 years old.