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Not what I meant. Could be there as an excuse loaded with drugs so the navy then can move in. Iraq was invaded under the false pretence of the weapons of mass d

Not what I meant. Could be there as an excuse loaded with drugs so the navy then can move in. Iraq was invaded under the false pretence of the weapons of mass destruction which didn't exist and UN observers proved so 1 week before Invasion. Panama was invaded under the excuse of drug war. Planting drugs to justify the invasion wouldn't be much of a stretch. Pretty bad luck that 1 of 3 reinforced cruise just drifts towards Venezuela during this escalation period. As the covid crisis worsens in US and a distraction is needed we'll see what happens, let's check back in a month.

duxup 7y ago
Except in your examples nobody needed to stage something like a cruise ship stuffed with drugs, they just made their case and did whatever. There is no need for staging anything, nobody would need a cruise ship full of drugs to think that drugs are coming out of Venezuela... Staging an event with a cruise ship as an excuse when they could just do the thing anyway seems like an overly complicated conspiracy theory.
- sudoaza 7y ago
  There were staged news, like newspaper articles showing in astonishing detail Saddam's biological and chemical weapons, which oops didn't exist. Also check where the La Tortuga island is located, It's right next to the coast, surrounded by other island, pretty dangerous location to just be drifting without paying attention to where you are. I'm not saying, that's definitely the reason they are there, I'm saying it's pretty weird and odd timing to suspect ulterior motives.
  - duxup 7y ago
    That's my point, someone could just lie on TV...no need to stage something with a cruise ship.
  - clort 7y ago
    I didn't read anything about 'drifting without paying attention to where you are' in the article Drifting is a common tactic for vessels which don't need to be anywhere specific, and 13 miles offshore is not an unsafe place to be drifting. In this location the wind and current will be mostly from the east, so the vessel will be moving to the west at a low speed. You can see what is in the way and 'oh we will hit an island in 12 hours unless we do something' is not an emergency.

duxup 7y ago

Except in your examples nobody needed to stage something like a cruise ship stuffed with drugs, they just made their case and did whatever. There is no need for staging anything, nobody would need a cruise ship full of drugs to think that drugs are coming out of Venezuela... Staging an event with a cruise ship as an excuse when they could just do the thing anyway seems like an overly complicated conspiracy theory.

sudoaza 7y ago
There were staged news, like newspaper articles showing in astonishing detail Saddam's biological and chemical weapons, which oops didn't exist. Also check where the La Tortuga island is located, It's right next to the coast, surrounded by other island, pretty dangerous location to just be drifting without paying attention to where you are. I'm not saying, that's definitely the reason they are there, I'm saying it's pretty weird and odd timing to suspect ulterior motives.
- duxup 7y ago
  That's my point, someone could just lie on TV...no need to stage something with a cruise ship.
- clort 7y ago
  I didn't read anything about 'drifting without paying attention to where you are' in the article Drifting is a common tactic for vessels which don't need to be anywhere specific, and 13 miles offshore is not an unsafe place to be drifting. In this location the wind and current will be mostly from the east, so the vessel will be moving to the west at a low speed. You can see what is in the way and 'oh we will hit an island in 12 hours unless we do something' is not an emergency.