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I respect that you believe that and you can meaningfully connect the rhetoric of small government to specious criticism of consumer protections laws. Just real

I respect that you believe that and you can meaningfully connect the rhetoric of small government to specious criticism of consumer protections laws. Just realize that to a significant part of the thinking public, it's NOT about that. It's about the government controlling everything from the size of your soda to your toilet seat size to the way your kids are educated to how you get your healthcare. A significant part of the public does NOT believe if it's a good idea, and there are bad consequences to someone not following the good idea, it therefore ought to be a law. It's not cynical on their part at all. Just trying to share with you the perspective of these people.

mywittyname 7y ago
>It's about the government controlling everything from the size of your soda to your toilet seat size to the way your kids are educated to how you get your healthcare. I see these things as falling under "consumer protection laws." There are lots of areas where the free market creates perverse incentives and society has created regulations in order to address these issues. We have food regulations because companies used to lie about the food they were selling, we have building codes because companies were constructing unsafe buildings, we have education regulation because schools were failing to provide a base-line education, and we are pushing for healthcare regulations because the private sector has fucked healthcare industry so badly that most of us feel that we should nuke it from orbit. You might not agree with my take, but I assure you that we are talking about the same thing. You may not think the public agrees with these things, but regulations like this didn't appear out of thin air and private companies certainly didn't put them in place. What happened was the public got tired of dealing with these problems and elected politicians who did something about it.
- david_w 7y ago
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- david_w 7y ago
  The phenomena you're refering to is real. I acknowledge that this set of things exist. There also exists a set of regulations and administrative agency issued laws which are fundamentally political- coersive towards a political or social end and not a safety or public-good end, except in the expansive vision of the annointed who created them. People get pursued and punished over this set of regulations. Anyone can convince themselves that such a set must exist just by answering the question - are there likely to be people in administrative agencies who had the specific ambition to put themselves into those positions to achieve a purely political, not "good public policy", ends? In otherwords are there crusaders in the adminstrative agencies? It's like asking if some politicians are crooked or if some people are criminals. That's why it's an error to dismiss the cries of foul play when they're raised. We know those people are there somewhere.

mywittyname 7y ago

>It's about the government controlling everything from the size of your soda to your toilet seat size to the way your kids are educated to how you get your healthcare. I see these things as falling under "consumer protection laws." There are lots of areas where the free market creates perverse incentives and society has created regulations in order to address these issues. We have food regulations because companies used to lie about the food they were selling, we have building codes because companies were constructing unsafe buildings, we have education regulation because schools were failing to provide a base-line education, and we are pushing for healthcare regulations because the private sector has fucked healthcare industry so badly that most of us feel that we should nuke it from orbit. You might not agree with my take, but I assure you that we are talking about the same thing. You may not think the public agrees with these things, but regulations like this didn't appear out of thin air and private companies certainly didn't put them in place. What happened was the public got tired of dealing with these problems and elected politicians who did something about it.

david_w 7y ago
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david_w 7y ago
The phenomena you're refering to is real. I acknowledge that this set of things exist. There also exists a set of regulations and administrative agency issued laws which are fundamentally political- coersive towards a political or social end and not a safety or public-good end, except in the expansive vision of the annointed who created them. People get pursued and punished over this set of regulations. Anyone can convince themselves that such a set must exist just by answering the question - are there likely to be people in administrative agencies who had the specific ambition to put themselves into those positions to achieve a purely political, not "good public policy", ends? In otherwords are there crusaders in the adminstrative agencies? It's like asking if some politicians are crooked or if some people are criminals. That's why it's an error to dismiss the cries of foul play when they're raised. We know those people are there somewhere.