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> Of course, all the desirable land is taken and expensive because you'll have to convince someone else to give up its use to you. This is also crucial to the
by ngngngng 7y ago
> Of course, all the desirable land is taken and expensive because you'll have to convince someone else to give up its use to you.
This is also crucial to the point I'm trying to make. Everything is already owned by somebody. Some of this "owned" land hasn't had anything done to it yet and likely won't for another hundred years, but you still can't use it, because it's "owned".
- tathougies 7y agoWell this is no different than hunter gatherer society where land was 'owned' by those willing able to defend it. If your tribe couldn't defend your land from invading tribes, the other tribe would take ownership of it. What you're ultimately complaining about is that other people exist, which is often noteworthy of complaint, but you'll be hardpressed to find a solution.
- jerf 7y agoWell, just consider that an authentic element of the pre-civilization experience. If it wasn't owned by another human, it was owned by other animals. If you want a life just handed to you without having to fight for it, civilization's much better at providing that than pre-civilization ever was.
- sushisource 7y agoOK, but, knowing this, how is it somehow "unfair" that you can't... what... steal this land from the people who have it now so you can drop out of society? That seems just as unfair, but from a different perspective.
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- dTal 7y agoWell, if we're talking "fairness", why is it "fair" that someone gets to permanently deny a piece of the Earth to everyone else? It's not like they made it in the first place, it's not even possible to make more. I argue that every fenced-off area incurs a debt to every citizen of the Earth.
- nkingsy 7y agoThe state possesses a monopoly on the use of force, so the only way to acquire a useful place to live is to have money or expose yourself to the state’s wrath.