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You're saying that email was overloaded so people turned to slack instead? People can change how notifications are handled for email too, so that is not at all

You're saying that email was overloaded so people turned to slack instead? People can change how notifications are handled for email too, so that is not at all new and I think that changing communications to a proprietary protocol instead of configuring an email client is stupid.

jasonv 7y ago
Yeah, sure. And I usually build up a set of filters and rules so that my inbox is manageable, but I think the compassionate point of view is that email is loaded with more disposable and management heavy communications than slack tends to be. Slack was where work got done. Email, less so.
- SahAssar 7y ago
  > email is loaded with more disposable and management heavy communications That's a cultural problem, not a technical one. Slack gets work done just because the bad practices haven't migrated to it yet, not because it's a better communication medium. In some spaces the email bad practices have migrated to slack too and personally I have to ignore slack just as much as email because of that.
  - kristianc 7y ago
    > Slack gets work done just because the bad practices haven't migrated to it yet, not because it's a better communication medium. Well no solution can possibly compete with all the bad things that _might_ happen on it in 10 years time.
  - andrewprock 7y ago
    I have seen plenty of bad practices in slack. In particular, there is more and more of a tendency to treat slack as "publication of record" as opposed to "ephemeral missives".
visarga 7y ago
You're treating two different forms of communication as if they were the same. Slack is organised by person and topic, while email is just a large sack of messages, possibly ranked and divided in a few folders. I find Slack's model much more efficient.
- bathtub365 7y ago
  The problem I have with Slack’s model is that it’s inflexible and I’m unable to organize things in a way that makes sense to me. With email the only constant is messages and threads. I’m free to organize or tag these artifacts however I want
- anoncake 7y ago
  Email has threads and you can search by person in any decent email client.
icedchai 7y ago
I disabled notifications for both email and slack. If it's important, send me a text or give me a call, except between the hours of 11 PM and 8 AM when the phone is on silent mode. I honestly don't know how people exist with all these interruptions. Turn them off.
- thebean11 7y ago
  But aren't you then just moving the goalpost from slack to text? What's the difference between a direct email vs direct slack vs text vs call? All of them are a combination of communication culture plus notification settings.
  - icedchai 7y ago
    I consider email and slack low priority.
lmm 7y ago
Configuring is stupid. People need to be able to work in different environments, so software needs to do the right thing by default. Email doesn't distinguish between messages that can be actioned by any one of a group and messages that need to be actioned by you specifically (there are a bunch of unreliable hacks that sort of work most of the time). So you're never going to be able to get the right notification behaviour in a reliable way.

jasonv 7y ago

Yeah, sure. And I usually build up a set of filters and rules so that my inbox is manageable, but I think the compassionate point of view is that email is loaded with more disposable and management heavy communications than slack tends to be. Slack was where work got done. Email, less so.

SahAssar 7y ago
> email is loaded with more disposable and management heavy communications That's a cultural problem, not a technical one. Slack gets work done just because the bad practices haven't migrated to it yet, not because it's a better communication medium. In some spaces the email bad practices have migrated to slack too and personally I have to ignore slack just as much as email because of that.
- kristianc 7y ago
  > Slack gets work done just because the bad practices haven't migrated to it yet, not because it's a better communication medium. Well no solution can possibly compete with all the bad things that _might_ happen on it in 10 years time.
- andrewprock 7y ago
  I have seen plenty of bad practices in slack. In particular, there is more and more of a tendency to treat slack as "publication of record" as opposed to "ephemeral missives".

visarga 7y ago

You're treating two different forms of communication as if they were the same. Slack is organised by person and topic, while email is just a large sack of messages, possibly ranked and divided in a few folders. I find Slack's model much more efficient.

bathtub365 7y ago
The problem I have with Slack’s model is that it’s inflexible and I’m unable to organize things in a way that makes sense to me. With email the only constant is messages and threads. I’m free to organize or tag these artifacts however I want
anoncake 7y ago
Email has threads and you can search by person in any decent email client.

icedchai 7y ago

I disabled notifications for both email and slack. If it's important, send me a text or give me a call, except between the hours of 11 PM and 8 AM when the phone is on silent mode. I honestly don't know how people exist with all these interruptions. Turn them off.

thebean11 7y ago
But aren't you then just moving the goalpost from slack to text? What's the difference between a direct email vs direct slack vs text vs call? All of them are a combination of communication culture plus notification settings.
- icedchai 7y ago
  I consider email and slack low priority.

lmm 7y ago

Configuring is stupid. People need to be able to work in different environments, so software needs to do the right thing by default. Email doesn't distinguish between messages that can be actioned by any one of a group and messages that need to be actioned by you specifically (there are a bunch of unreliable hacks that sort of work most of the time). So you're never going to be able to get the right notification behaviour in a reliable way.