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We would be out of deer the first week.

X6S1x6Okd1st 7y ago
Nowhere in here was there a suggestion of 7 billion people adopting this lifestyle. The only suggestion was that there should be a wild human preserve for those that want to live in this lifestyle. Obviously not many people want to live like this anyways.
greedo 7y ago
There's over 30 million deer in North America. And moose, and antelope, and bear, beaver, elk, geese, ducks, quail, pheasant. I think there's plenty of wildlife to feed us.
- Google234 7y ago
  I think you need to think some more. Search how many people there are in North America. 1 deer might feed one person for 1 week so basically that’s enough food to Feed everyone for a day?
  - kadonoishi 7y ago
    Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1338/ https://xkcd.com/1338/ Also a paper on biomass: https://www.pnas.org/content/115/25/6506 https://www.pnas.org/content/115/25/6506
  - greedo 7y ago
    That's why I included all the other wildlife, not to mention fish. And deer breed like rabbits.
    - masonic 7y ago
      deer breed like rabbits A rabbit can have 60 kits a year. A doe averages two fawns a year, if she mates at all.
    - Google234 7y ago
      Dude I think 95% of the human population would die if we went back to hunter gatherer culture. Modern agriculture is what sustains our population.
      - greedo 7y ago
        Oh definitely. HG culture is hard! The skills aren't easily learned, and depend on knowledge specific to a region. What would really kill most of us is water issues.
        int_19h 7y ago
        It's not just about skills. The point, again, is that there is simply not enough game (or edible plants, for that matter) to sustain out present population levels. It's a difference of several orders of magnitude. Look at some of the most successful historical hunter-gatherer societies, the ones that lived in areas that are naturally abundant with food - e.g. temperate rainforests with bountiful rivers, like Japan or American PNW. But even then, we're talking about the largest communities consisting of several hundred people, maybe a thousand - nowhere near our present population density.
int_19h 7y ago
If everybody does it, absolutely. But, curiously enough, we do actually need more people to hunt deer, because their populations are exploding (since we wiped out the predators that kept them in check, like wolves), while the popularity of hunting is plummeting. https://blog.nature.org/science/2013/08/22/too-many-deer/ https://blog.nature.org/science/2013/08/22/too-many-deer/

Nowhere in here was there a suggestion of 7 billion people adopting this lifestyle. The only suggestion was that there should be a wild human preserve for those that want to live in this lifestyle. Obviously not many people want to live like this anyways.

greedo 7y ago

There's over 30 million deer in North America. And moose, and antelope, and bear, beaver, elk, geese, ducks, quail, pheasant. I think there's plenty of wildlife to feed us.

Google234 7y ago
I think you need to think some more. Search how many people there are in North America. 1 deer might feed one person for 1 week so basically that’s enough food to Feed everyone for a day?
- kadonoishi 7y ago
  Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1338/ https://xkcd.com/1338/ Also a paper on biomass: https://www.pnas.org/content/115/25/6506 https://www.pnas.org/content/115/25/6506
- greedo 7y ago
  That's why I included all the other wildlife, not to mention fish. And deer breed like rabbits.
  - masonic 7y ago
    deer breed like rabbits A rabbit can have 60 kits a year. A doe averages two fawns a year, if she mates at all.
  - Google234 7y ago
    Dude I think 95% of the human population would die if we went back to hunter gatherer culture. Modern agriculture is what sustains our population.
    - greedo 7y ago
      Oh definitely. HG culture is hard! The skills aren't easily learned, and depend on knowledge specific to a region. What would really kill most of us is water issues.
      - int_19h 7y ago
        It's not just about skills. The point, again, is that there is simply not enough game (or edible plants, for that matter) to sustain out present population levels. It's a difference of several orders of magnitude. Look at some of the most successful historical hunter-gatherer societies, the ones that lived in areas that are naturally abundant with food - e.g. temperate rainforests with bountiful rivers, like Japan or American PNW. But even then, we're talking about the largest communities consisting of several hundred people, maybe a thousand - nowhere near our present population density.

int_19h 7y ago

If everybody does it, absolutely. But, curiously enough, we do actually need more people to hunt deer, because their populations are exploding (since we wiped out the predators that kept them in check, like wolves), while the popularity of hunting is plummeting. https://blog.nature.org/science/2013/08/22/too-many-deer/ https://blog.nature.org/science/2013/08/22/too-many-deer/