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> limited to places where shelter-in-place is in full force, which at least in the United States, is only a small part of the country with densely populated urb
by samspenc 7y ago
> limited to places where shelter-in-place is in full force, which at least in the United States, is only a small part of the country with densely populated urban areas: New York, California, New Jersey, Michigan, etc.
Ummm, it is NOT a "small part" of the country that is under "shelter-in-place". By geographic area, maybe, but California, New York and New Jersey alone include some of the largest cities by population and population density. And there are now several other states with large populations (Illinois, Florida, Washington, for example) not listed here that have shelter-in-place as well.
UPDATE: I found an interactive map that shows which states have statewide shelter-in-place orders in the United States; it looks like all the states with the largest populations (and more than 50% of the country's total population) are covered, which is actually significantly larger than I had actually thought before I looked this up: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-stay-at-home-order.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-stay...
- madhadron 7y agoBy population, New York + California + New Jersey is 22% of the USA.
- altoidaltoid 7y agoand have 6% representation in the Senate...
- rjbwork 7y agoYes, that's how the Senate works.
- MrZongle2 7y agoMore specifically: every state has 2 US Senators, whereas Representatives in the US House of Representatives are allocated to states based upon population.
- acwan93 7y agoHistorical context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_Compromise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_Compromise
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- virtue3 7y agoThat's what the house is for. The senate is there so the larger states don't trample over, say, Idaho. Majority rules does NOT work for the USA. You have to think of us as the EU with member votes for each country (country being state). This nation is not supposed to be about the federal government, it all went to shit around 9/11 and has continued to do so.
- omegaworks 7y agoEven the House is slowly becoming less representative. The number of seats was capped at 435 back in the Taft era and states have rarely lost seats since[1]. With the 2020 Census likely in disarray due to both the Coronavirus and this administration's clear, documented intent to bias it "to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites,"[2] the crisis of representation will only worsen. 1. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/31/u-s-population-keeps-growing-but-house-of-representatives-is-same-size-as-in-taft-era/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/31/u-s-populat... 2. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-que...
- rodgerd 7y ago> Majority rules does NOT work for the USA. That's certainly what the people who put the 3/5ths rule thought.
- bobthepanda 7y ago> it all went to shit around 9/11 Not really. You could argue that it's been like this for a while. Depending on what you want to judge, there's - Johnson's Great Society (Medicaid and Medicare, urban renewal, War on Poverty) - Eisenhower (Interstates, the first nationwide public transportation network) - FDR (The New Deal, Social Security)
- TheCoelacanth 7y agoI would go even earlier - Fugitive Slave Act (Federal government uses military force to kidnap people who were, according to the laws of the state they were in, free citizens and force them back into captivity)
- virtue3 7y agoNY + NJ + CA are represented by 21% of the house.
- SkyPuncher 7y agoLots of other states have "Safer at Home" orders right now too. They're effectively the same thing.
- nicoburns 7y agoAlso, most of europe.