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Face it, HCQ is an old and cheap drug that doesn't fit Big Pharma profit visions. Its much more enticing for Big Pharma to sell new patented solutions, so they
by _red 7y ago
Face it, HCQ is an old and cheap drug that doesn't fit Big Pharma profit visions.
Its much more enticing for Big Pharma to sell new patented solutions, so they will pay their PR mouthpieces (MSM) to "be cautious" of anything that doesn't achieve that end goal.
- dogma1138 7y agoHaven’t many big pharmas pledged to or have donated millions of doses already? Seems a bit in odds with your claims.
- _red 7y agoDonate something that cost you 0.10 per pill and getting a tax write-off for $2.00 per pill. Sure, why not?
- tomcam 7y agoSo... making those donations was bad? Would you prefer they not do it?
- aabeshou 7y agodont move the goalposts. (1) OP said big pharma wants to downplay HCQ because it doesnt make them as much money. (2) reply says that the fact that pharma donated millions of doses contradicts that (3) OP counters that pharma is donating millions of doses because it gives them an epic tax write-off it has nothing to do with donations being bad. it has to do with the fact that pharma is always doing whats best for them, and if its also best for patients that's a happy coincidence, but they frequently act in opposite of whats best for patients (e.g. price gouging on insulin, in this case possibly downplaying the efficacy of a cheap drug HCQ), and that's something we should notice and call out
- dogma1138 7y agoThat’s fine however it doesn’t bode with the original assertion that it’s downplayed HCQ if anything it somewhat sensationalized it. I have no problems believing that BigPharma does what is good for BigPharma in this case getting good PR, a tax write off and having their most valuable customers as in those with chronic conditions which means pretty much most people once they hit 50-60 to stay alive so they can sell their patented drugs to their insurers and HMOs is a much more believable strategy than some conspiracy that BigPharma is downplaying HCQ because they can’t make money on it.
- aabeshou 7y ago- I think Trump is the one who sensationalized it, not pharma surrogates, but I may be wrong - I'm not committed to this particular conspiracy theory but I jumped in here because I don't like when people try to dismiss conspiracies out of hand as if it's crazy to think that pharma does things like this constantly. There's this free market ideology that exonerates companies and argues that self-interested behavior leads to positive outcomes, so I was reacting to what I sensed of that
- dogma1138 7y agoIt’s perfectly acceptable to dismiss conspiracy theories that not only go against the actual narrative but against common sense.
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- tomcam 7y ago> dont move the goalposts. Thought I was asking for clarification. What goalposts did I move?
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- JshWright 7y ago> Face it, HCQ is an old and cheap drug that doesn't fit Big Pharma profit visions. That seems like a non sequitur... Do you think HCQ knows that, and is therefore making itself less effective, just to stick it to Trump? The reality is, HCQ is not without adverse side-effects, and we have reason to be cautious. There have been several examples in the past where early results of HCQ testing looked promising against various viruses, but didn't pan out when actually used at larger scale in humans.
- acd10j 7y agoWe can check efficacy claim of HCQ by doing Randomised trail in US under FDA supervision instead of just relying on Chinese studies, But main benefit of HCQ if it found to be effective would be that it is already a widely used approved drug. We know it's side effects, Getting a new drug approved and check for its side effects itself is very time consuming and expensive exercise. Here only randomised large scale trail is needed. What is preventive USA Pharma companies and FDA to do randomised trails here ?
- JshWright 7y agoNothing is preventing them, that is why there are several large scale trials taking place in the United States right now... (mostly in New York, as well as at least one in Washington).