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> For those who want additional control of their keys, an on-premise solution exists today for the entire meeting infrastructure, and a solution will be availab

> For those who want additional control of their keys, an on-premise solution exists today for the entire meeting infrastructure, and a solution will be available later this year to allow organizations to leverage Zoom’s cloud infrastructure but host the key management system within their environment. Additionally, enterprise customers have the option to run certain versions of our connectors within their own data centers if they would like to manage the decryption and translation process themselves. So... privacy is a premium feature requiring you to self-host? Why not just run jitsi for free?

swixmix 7y ago
Doesn't Jitsi have the same problem? The solution is the same: Run your own server. End to end encrypted videoconferencing does not scale easily without a server. > Is Jitsi Meet end-to-end encrypted? #409 > ... "yes, https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ encrypts the communication, only the two clients and our server has access to them". ... [1] [1]: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/409 https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/409
- f38zf5vdt 7y ago
  Yes... but in one case the software is entirely FOSS and readily deployable via a docker image. The Zoom server is not FOSS, or even accessible through their GitHub. https://github.com/jitsi/docker-jitsi-meet https://github.com/jitsi/docker-jitsi-meet
  - swixmix 7y ago
    Right. Let's assume I refuse to take on the responsibility of a videoconferencing server. What are my options to get Jitsi Meet? Can I pay a company to set up and maintain it? Or do I have to hunt for a videoconferencing engineer?
    - f38zf5vdt 7y ago
      It's free if you use their servers (https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/), but then you're back to square one in that you don't own the encryption keys. Scaleway shows how easy it is to configure and deploy on a cloud host: https://www.scaleway.com/en/docs/deploy-jitsi-meet-with-docker/ https://www.scaleway.com/en/docs/deploy-jitsi-meet-with-dock... Whether or not your cloud hosting is secure is a separate issue altogether. :) I'm not saying that it's E2EE on Jitsi either, but at least the implementation is transparent.
- mtgx 7y ago
  Uh, I can't believe that their answer is "yes.....and our server has access to them." Which is it Jitsi team? You can't have your users' cake and eat it, too.
- ahendriksen 7y ago
  To me, this quote gave the impression that Jitsi developers similarly (and falsely) claim that it is end-to-end encrypted: > Is Jitsi Meet end-to-end encrypted? #409 > ... "yes, https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ encrypts the communication, only the two clients and our server has access to them". ... [1] In fact, "yes, .. " is an answer to the question "is it reasonable to use Jitsi Meet from an untrusted wifi network?". It was written by a user of Jitsi and not one of the developers. A developer answers "when talking on meet.jit.si your stream is encrypted on the network but decrypted on the machine that hosts the bridge."

swixmix 7y ago

Doesn't Jitsi have the same problem? The solution is the same: Run your own server. End to end encrypted videoconferencing does not scale easily without a server. > Is Jitsi Meet end-to-end encrypted? #409 > ... "yes, https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ encrypts the communication, only the two clients and our server has access to them". ... [1] [1]: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/409 https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/409

f38zf5vdt 7y ago
Yes... but in one case the software is entirely FOSS and readily deployable via a docker image. The Zoom server is not FOSS, or even accessible through their GitHub. https://github.com/jitsi/docker-jitsi-meet https://github.com/jitsi/docker-jitsi-meet
- swixmix 7y ago
  Right. Let's assume I refuse to take on the responsibility of a videoconferencing server. What are my options to get Jitsi Meet? Can I pay a company to set up and maintain it? Or do I have to hunt for a videoconferencing engineer?
  - f38zf5vdt 7y ago
    It's free if you use their servers (https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/), but then you're back to square one in that you don't own the encryption keys. Scaleway shows how easy it is to configure and deploy on a cloud host: https://www.scaleway.com/en/docs/deploy-jitsi-meet-with-docker/ https://www.scaleway.com/en/docs/deploy-jitsi-meet-with-dock... Whether or not your cloud hosting is secure is a separate issue altogether. :) I'm not saying that it's E2EE on Jitsi either, but at least the implementation is transparent.
mtgx 7y ago
Uh, I can't believe that their answer is "yes.....and our server has access to them." Which is it Jitsi team? You can't have your users' cake and eat it, too.
ahendriksen 7y ago
To me, this quote gave the impression that Jitsi developers similarly (and falsely) claim that it is end-to-end encrypted: > Is Jitsi Meet end-to-end encrypted? #409 > ... "yes, https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ encrypts the communication, only the two clients and our server has access to them". ... [1] In fact, "yes, .. " is an answer to the question "is it reasonable to use Jitsi Meet from an untrusted wifi network?". It was written by a user of Jitsi and not one of the developers. A developer answers "when talking on meet.jit.si your stream is encrypted on the network but decrypted on the machine that hosts the bridge."