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>Any sw product has issues. The question is what the company does about it We are all software devs -- we know as well as him. He's chosen to prioritise growth
by s_dev 7y ago
>Any sw product has issues. The question is what the company does about it
We are all software devs -- we know as well as him. He's chosen to prioritise growth over end user data privacy protection and then lying about it with marketing e.g. E2E advertised on front page.
Many of these privacy/security issues were being complained about on HN about Zoom well before Corona.
If Zoom users are data breached I personally won't feel sorry for them like some other breaches like Equifax for example. They've signed up to this to secure a bit of convenience. I will be personally discouraging it's use where I work.
- arm 7y ago“If Zoom users are data breached I personally won't feel sorry for them like some other breaches like Equifax for example. They've signed up to this to secure a bit of convenience.” I think that’s a bit unfair of a stance to take. As an example, I know someone who doesn’t want to use Zoom, but thanks to their university classes going online-only due to COVID-19, some of their professors have forced them to use Zoom for lectures, presentations, and examinations.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 7y agoThat. I am personally in that boat and I in my class I had no choice, but to use Zoom for it. The problem with "you don't want it, don't use it" mantra is, it is ignoring cases like mine. In law, those tend to be characterized as contracts of adhesion. edit: clarity
- zimpenfish 7y agoSame. $WORK moved from Whereby to Zoom (to handle more people in the weekly video meeting) which means I have to use Zoom - but I'm only using the iOS version and without signing up for an account.
- Loughla 7y ago>He's chosen to prioritise growth over end user data privacy protection and then lying about it with marketing I feel like I'm in crazy town. Isn't this the actual, living, real motto of SV? Move fast and break things. That's a thing that exists. Why are you people hating on Zoom when they're doing what you're all (seemingly) trying to do? Have I lost my mind?
- fartcannon 7y agoI guess the sociopath that wrote that originally doesnt speak for everyone?
- jeltz 7y agoAnd I have always disagreed with that motto, as has many others here at HN.
- blaser-waffle 7y agoMoney gives cachet and prestige. Who cares about TLS/SSL abstractions when you're driving a new Lambo?
- greenyoda 7y ago> Isn't this the actual, living, real motto of SV? Move fast and break things. Not all of us are in SV. And some of us go to great lengths to not break things.
- yiyus 7y agoWell, I can discourage its usage as much as I want, but if my university decides to use it, my chances to change that are very close to zero. And if the security issues affect me or my students, I will feel sorry.