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What I would like to know: Given the huge number of infected health workers, are ffp2/ffp3 masks with valve still commonly used in hospitals?

by jansan 7y ago

Arnt 7y ago
I think you mean: In institutions where health care workers work, which is much more than hospitals. Many of them work in practices or in various kinds of nursing homes. The masks you may see often in an ICU aren't ones you'll see often in a nursing home or a physiotherapist practice.
- DoingIsLearning 7y ago
  I think specifically in Spain, there were a particularly high infection rate of frontline hospital staff. Spain like the majority of European countries does not have issues like lack of staff training or not following state-of-the-art protocols. So it begs the question, are the infection control protocols that we currently have, safe enough to deal with this virus? An interesting case-study is Cotugno Hospital, an infectious disease hospital in Naples, Italy. It has so far reported zero staff infections. Perhaps their 'over-the-top' protocol is what is required for all Hospitals when dealing with SARS-COV2?
  - Arnt 7y ago
    This virus is a strange one. Apparently there's no single symptom that affects even a small majority of the infected patients. That's a strange, unusual problem to handle for a system that assumes that illnesses make people ill. A hospital is self-selecting, in that it doesn't have 50% patients that feel well and show no symptoms. The people who work at a hospital take the precautions that are considered appropriate for the disease they've diagnosed. This means that to some degree, they're not ambushed by asymptomatic infected people.
- jansan 7y ago
  What I actually mean is if the standard protocol currently used in hospitals sees the health care workers as potential source of infections or only as potential infection targets.
  - Arnt 7y ago
    There are routine protocols to keep health care workers from infecting patients. This is common, because the problem is a very common one. The stuff that lives on a healthy nurses's hands may do no damage there, but would do terrible damage if it could invade a patient who's weak from yesterday's operation. The same applies to the common cold, to whatever the nurse may have picked up while treating another patient half an hour ago, and many, many other varieties of the same hygiene problem.

What I would like to know: Given the huge number of infected health workers, are ffp2/ffp3 masks with valve still commonly used in hospitals?

by jansan 7y ago

What I would like to know: Given the huge number of infected health workers, are ffp2/ffp3 masks with valve still commonly used in hospitals?

Arnt 7y ago

I think you mean: In institutions where health care workers work, which is much more than hospitals. Many of them work in practices or in various kinds of nursing homes. The masks you may see often in an ICU aren't ones you'll see often in a nursing home or a physiotherapist practice.

DoingIsLearning 7y ago
I think specifically in Spain, there were a particularly high infection rate of frontline hospital staff. Spain like the majority of European countries does not have issues like lack of staff training or not following state-of-the-art protocols. So it begs the question, are the infection control protocols that we currently have, safe enough to deal with this virus? An interesting case-study is Cotugno Hospital, an infectious disease hospital in Naples, Italy. It has so far reported zero staff infections. Perhaps their 'over-the-top' protocol is what is required for all Hospitals when dealing with SARS-COV2?
- Arnt 7y ago
  This virus is a strange one. Apparently there's no single symptom that affects even a small majority of the infected patients. That's a strange, unusual problem to handle for a system that assumes that illnesses make people ill. A hospital is self-selecting, in that it doesn't have 50% patients that feel well and show no symptoms. The people who work at a hospital take the precautions that are considered appropriate for the disease they've diagnosed. This means that to some degree, they're not ambushed by asymptomatic infected people.
jansan 7y ago
What I actually mean is if the standard protocol currently used in hospitals sees the health care workers as potential source of infections or only as potential infection targets.
- Arnt 7y ago
  There are routine protocols to keep health care workers from infecting patients. This is common, because the problem is a very common one. The stuff that lives on a healthy nurses's hands may do no damage there, but would do terrible damage if it could invade a patient who's weak from yesterday's operation. The same applies to the common cold, to whatever the nurse may have picked up while treating another patient half an hour ago, and many, many other varieties of the same hygiene problem.