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I've used this while trying to find open source video conferencing solutions and chat applications in the past. It spends significant amounts of time not findin
by hkt 7y ago
I've used this while trying to find open source video conferencing solutions and chat applications in the past. It spends significant amounts of time not finding my friends before timing out.
As an aside, I don't believe in the virtues of P2P anymore. It's clear to me that centralised systems scale further and faster, and what we need are benign organisations to run them. Legal forms like cooperatives and community benefit societies (nonprofits in the US I guess) are the way forward. I'd choose a community instance of Jitsi as being the best approximation of this for now.
- lambertsimnel 7y agoI share your interest in cooperatives, but not all cooperatives are equal. If we expect cooperatives to provide public interest services that might otherwise be P2P or nonprofit, I think we need a special kind of cooperative. I belong to cooperatives that are politically partisan, that engage in sharp practice, and that aren't as democratic as I'd like. I'd prefer cooperatives to concentrate on treating stakeholders fairly, representing members equally and effectively, and prudent stewardship of their assets. Cooperatives might lose their focus on their main purposes and discourage some non-progressives from becoming members/customers by pursuing too wide a range of progressive causes.
- hkt 7y agoIn the UK we have a legal form called a community interest company. This, owned by a co-op, would probably be the right form.
- wagaf 7y agoEverything has a cost. On the long term, who will pay and maintain the Jitsi server ? How will random people find a trustworthy server ? Jami doesn't need a server.
- hkt 7y agoHonestly, people will pay. They pay for Wikipedia, it is odd that you think they wouldn't pay for something as useful as this.