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Your comment is spot on, except the first paragraph. Apple's dev tools may not be used by the majority of developers, but they have influenced the industry. O
by mattrepl 18y ago
Your comment is spot on, except the first paragraph. Apple's dev tools may not be used by the majority of developers, but they have influenced the industry.
One such example is Obj-C and NeXTStep's influence on Java (http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/java-objc.html http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/java-objc.html). Of course it was really NeXT's influence, but it was still Steve Jobs and company behind the scenes.
- SwellJoe 18y agoI guess my comment seemed, somehow, to be praising Java. Java is a setting sun, and becomes increasingly irrelevant in web apps by the day. The JVM, on the other hand, might turn out to be very relevant, due to the increasing number and quality of dynamic languages that run on the JVM. And the JVM is not something that can be claimed to have lineage from Objective C (since ObjC has no VM). Anyway, I just think the hyperbole is way out of place. Apple is not going to dramatically alter the web app development landscape. Some people (mostly people who've built Apple desktop apps) will find Objective-J a more comfortable way to build web apps, and that's wonderful. But it's not a world-shaking thing.
- mattrepl 18y agoYou said: "[b]ecause Apple's dev tools have always had such a huge impact on the software development industry". I simply provided a single example that refuted your conjecture that Apple had no influence in the development world. It's irrelevant what either one of us thinks of Java or its future; Java was a significant, mainstream development tool and it was impacted by Apple development technologies.