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I see a lot of love for Legere in this thread, but I remember him as the guy who influenced his devout followers to attack the EFF just because the EFF rightly

I see a lot of love for Legere in this thread, but I remember him as the guy who influenced his devout followers to attack the EFF just because the EFF rightly criticized one of his moves. Edit: The move being lying about throttling. His exact words were: "who the fuck are you, anyway, EFF? ... Why are you stirring up so much trouble, and who pays you?"

r00fus 7y ago
And Steve Jobs had particular views that were also myopic. That doesn't mean he wasn't a visionary and effective leader that made a difference. Compared with his industry counterparts, Legere was a breath of fresh air.
- jshevek 7y ago
  >And Steve Jobs had particular views that were also myopic. What is the "myopic view" in this situation? That poisoning the well is a good strategy for deflecting criticism of your dishonesty?
- no_wizard 7y ago
  And rightly, people should criticize Steve Jobs for those things. Being "better than industry counterparts" doesn't excuse myopic behavior.
  - exergy 7y ago
    Yeah, what kind of criterion is that? "The best STD" and all that...
downerending 7y ago
Didn't know that, but I can hardly think of a CEO I despise more, if it makes you feel any better. (About a decade ago, I got trapped in a contract with T-Mobile and ended up forfeiting almost $1500.)
- MrRadar 7y ago
  John Legere didn't take over as CEO until 2012 and one of John Legere's biggest early moves (in 2013) was eliminating contracts, so I think your anger over that issue is a bit misplaced.
  - downerending 7y ago
    He was the CEO when I was trying to get T-Mobile to resolve my problem in a reasonable way. He may not have invented the unconscionable contracts, but he certainly could have simply stopped enforcing them. Also, I'm less than convinced that he was somehow a leader in eliminating contracts. I think it was simply an inevitable result of changing economics, and he was likely just dragged along with everyone else.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> I see a lot of love for Legere in this thread There is strange uptick of "love" of corporate leaders all over social media for some reason. Certainly PR is at play, but also it's likely that the internet and social media has become more popular and attracted more uniformed masses. Just the other day on reddit, there was a Gates' thread and the "love" there was cult like.
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xeromal 7y ago
We'll see what happens with T mobile in the coming years, but Legere definitely made T mobile just feel way better. They started adding all these seemingly weird features as part of their plans but it has made me a customer for 5 years. I get free WiFi on a lot of flights, 15GB of hotspot for updating my Tesla, Netflix, and international which is my favorite thing about it. I get unlimited texting and data in almost every country and I've tried it in Peru, Morocco, Iceland, Mexico, KURDISTAN, etc. It's small things and honestly I could probably save money if I just managed all those features myself but it really made my phone plan just feel more useful. My girl and I also signed on every Tuesday to see if we'd get a free coffee or donut on T mobile Tuesdays. Call me a sucker but he really did make T Mobile feel fun and exiting. Kind of like Elon Musk. He called that guy a rapist and he's a bit weird/asshole, but he also made several successful companies that have benefited the world in a positive way. The world isn't black and white and I honestly think people should be judged by the combined weight of their sins and deeds. We're complex human beings.
- jshevek 7y ago
  You've copy pasted the same text twice in this thread. You are literally spamming your support for [someone who lied about throttling then attacked, via despicable rhetorical methods, attacked an organization for bringing the truth to light. By definition, a manipulative liar.]
  - xeromal 7y ago
    Accident. One of them has an Elon rant. I'll leave that one.
op00to 7y ago
He was flashy, which people seemed to like, but he was a game player in the worst way. When lobbying the Trump administration, do we remember where he directed his people to stay? Hint: it wasn’t the Mayflower.

r00fus 7y ago

And Steve Jobs had particular views that were also myopic. That doesn't mean he wasn't a visionary and effective leader that made a difference. Compared with his industry counterparts, Legere was a breath of fresh air.

jshevek 7y ago
>And Steve Jobs had particular views that were also myopic. What is the "myopic view" in this situation? That poisoning the well is a good strategy for deflecting criticism of your dishonesty?
no_wizard 7y ago
And rightly, people should criticize Steve Jobs for those things. Being "better than industry counterparts" doesn't excuse myopic behavior.
- exergy 7y ago
  Yeah, what kind of criterion is that? "The best STD" and all that...

downerending 7y ago

Didn't know that, but I can hardly think of a CEO I despise more, if it makes you feel any better. (About a decade ago, I got trapped in a contract with T-Mobile and ended up forfeiting almost $1500.)

MrRadar 7y ago
John Legere didn't take over as CEO until 2012 and one of John Legere's biggest early moves (in 2013) was eliminating contracts, so I think your anger over that issue is a bit misplaced.
- downerending 7y ago
  He was the CEO when I was trying to get T-Mobile to resolve my problem in a reasonable way. He may not have invented the unconscionable contracts, but he certainly could have simply stopped enforcing them. Also, I'm less than convinced that he was somehow a leader in eliminating contracts. I think it was simply an inevitable result of changing economics, and he was likely just dragged along with everyone else.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> I see a lot of love for Legere in this thread There is strange uptick of "love" of corporate leaders all over social media for some reason. Certainly PR is at play, but also it's likely that the internet and social media has become more popular and attracted more uniformed masses. Just the other day on reddit, there was a Gates' thread and the "love" there was cult like.

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xeromal 7y ago

We'll see what happens with T mobile in the coming years, but Legere definitely made T mobile just feel way better. They started adding all these seemingly weird features as part of their plans but it has made me a customer for 5 years. I get free WiFi on a lot of flights, 15GB of hotspot for updating my Tesla, Netflix, and international which is my favorite thing about it. I get unlimited texting and data in almost every country and I've tried it in Peru, Morocco, Iceland, Mexico, KURDISTAN, etc. It's small things and honestly I could probably save money if I just managed all those features myself but it really made my phone plan just feel more useful. My girl and I also signed on every Tuesday to see if we'd get a free coffee or donut on T mobile Tuesdays. Call me a sucker but he really did make T Mobile feel fun and exiting. Kind of like Elon Musk. He called that guy a rapist and he's a bit weird/asshole, but he also made several successful companies that have benefited the world in a positive way. The world isn't black and white and I honestly think people should be judged by the combined weight of their sins and deeds. We're complex human beings.

jshevek 7y ago
You've copy pasted the same text twice in this thread. You are literally spamming your support for [someone who lied about throttling then attacked, via despicable rhetorical methods, attacked an organization for bringing the truth to light. By definition, a manipulative liar.]
- xeromal 7y ago
  Accident. One of them has an Elon rant. I'll leave that one.

op00to 7y ago

He was flashy, which people seemed to like, but he was a game player in the worst way. When lobbying the Trump administration, do we remember where he directed his people to stay? Hint: it wasn’t the Mayflower.