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Sounds like the beginning of the surveillance state.
by adamc 7y ago
Sounds like the beginning of the surveillance state.
- core-questions 7y agoYou know it's been coming for a long time. I assumed the state already had this information - if they do, clearly they've decided retaining that and not letting people know they have it is more important than whatever Corona-busting results it could have.
- dirtyid 7y agoBecause it is. The tidbits all these articles conveniently leaves out about these successful responses from (more) democratic countries is that they are closer to Chinese techno-authoritarianism than not: Korea (health officials cross reference credit card bill, location data), Taiwan (tracking bracelet), Singapore (bluetooth app), Hong Kong (out-of-home quarantine). China is basically all of the above piped straight into police big data on top of various human and environmental layers. That's what is required because enforcing compliance doesn't scale with labour and quarantine dodgers are a statistical inevitability. Many of these countries started off with human monitoring. One of the key findings in Wuhan where there is magnitude more spread than these countries is that you have to isolate positive cases from whoever they cohabitate with (family, roommates etc). It requires forced out-of-home quarantine or infected persons WILL infect everyone they live with. These are known lessons that western MSM have deliberately overlooked until it becomes too costly to ignore because it involves interrogation of whether it's politically or culturally possible. E: It's starting to feel like this entire process may reveal itself to be liberal democracies equivalent of "Why Arabs Lose Wars", too many contemporary cultural and political factors that makes effective quarantine impossible.
- ur-whale 7y agoThe surveillance state has been here for a very long time. They're just making it legitimate.