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You don't care about learning outcomes? Sorry - I'm gonna have a hard time caring about the rest of your argument until you justify that a little. I'm not arg

You don't care about learning outcomes? Sorry - I'm gonna have a hard time caring about the rest of your argument until you justify that a little. I'm not arguing that people should fake ADD to get scripts. I do think this is a wrong and bad thing to do - but not because it makes them "academic cheaters" - it's because it forces up costs on the drug that genuine ADD people need just to be level with ordinary people. I know - because I genuinely am one - believe it or not. And I'm gonna be pissed if I have to start paying 100 bucks a bottle because the government's budget gets blown on a-holes who are faking it. But that's a different issue to what we're talking about here. Having said that - I think the solution to both problems is to throw open the market with certain controls to limit substance abuse - and let the free market bring down costs (since the larger market will allow greater economies of scale in production).

yardie 16y ago
The learning outcome is irrelevant. It's irrelevant to the cheaters and to the poster above. Someone taking amphetamines to cram is doing exactly that. They aren't learning, they are just cramming to get through the next set of exams. So to them the learning outcome is irrelevant if the only thing that matters is the grade.
yardie 16y ago
The learning outcome is irrelevant. It's irrelevant to the cheaters and to the poster above. Someone taking amphetamines to cram is doing exactly that. They aren't learning, they are just cramming to get through the next set of exams. So to them the learning outcome is irrelevant if the only thing that matters is the grade.
Duff 16y ago
Perhaps I should have said "I don't care about the learning outcomes of people looking for an edge" If you have a medical condition, the government or insurance company should be paying for the drug. I don't think passing out pills to get economies of scale makes sense here. My real beef, which I have done a poor job at expressing, is that folks are popping pills at someone else's expense because they want to party and still do well in school. Another, similar beef is that drug companies market these drugs to consumers. The end result is that folks are trying to get various drugs, and folks like you who have a genuine condition end up paying more. (A better example is heavily marketed and very expensive heartburn drugs, which can be substituted for cheap, OTC drugs for most cases of heartburn)

yardie 16y ago

The learning outcome is irrelevant. It's irrelevant to the cheaters and to the poster above. Someone taking amphetamines to cram is doing exactly that. They aren't learning, they are just cramming to get through the next set of exams. So to them the learning outcome is irrelevant if the only thing that matters is the grade.

yardie 16y ago

Duff 16y ago

Perhaps I should have said "I don't care about the learning outcomes of people looking for an edge" If you have a medical condition, the government or insurance company should be paying for the drug. I don't think passing out pills to get economies of scale makes sense here. My real beef, which I have done a poor job at expressing, is that folks are popping pills at someone else's expense because they want to party and still do well in school. Another, similar beef is that drug companies market these drugs to consumers. The end result is that folks are trying to get various drugs, and folks like you who have a genuine condition end up paying more. (A better example is heavily marketed and very expensive heartburn drugs, which can be substituted for cheap, OTC drugs for most cases of heartburn)