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But some people are going to have to be exposed. Farmworker's exposure helps us flatten the curve.

by ng12 7y ago

Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
Sure. Except if reports are to be believed coronavirus carrying foods could survive the trip from farm to table and infect people nationwide rapidly.
- ng12 7y ago
  If so that'll happen no matter what. Packaged food will be handled by multiple people before it gets into the consumer's hands.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
    Force farms to implement social distancing. Just use a drone. Immediate shut down for noncompliance. Owner goes to jail, farm and equipment get seized nationalized and sold back to the public. Illegals get deported, legals get unemployment. It takes everyone making sacrifices to stop the spread. Especially the landowners and leaders.
groby_b 7y ago
That... I'm sorry, but that's just an utterly uninformed take. Nobody "has" to be exposed, protective gear would work just fine. And no, exposing farmworkers doesn't help to flatten the curve. The curve would be equally flat if they weren't exposed. What you just said is "Somebody has to die, let's kill the farmworkers so we're safe". You might want to rethink. What we need to do is stop exploiting them. They're not at high risk because they need to be, they're at high risk because we're not paying them well. Because we withhold even the options for basic hygiene for them. Because we value profit over human life.
- ng12 7y ago
  I'm not saying we shouldn't take all precautions we can. I'm saying it's necessary work and some exposure needs to happen.
  - groby_b 7y ago
    No, some exposure does not need to happen. You could bring in the harvest just fine without exposure. We're choosing not to, because it'd cost precious money, and that's the god we'd like to worship. With the exact same kind of logic you use, one could also argue that it's not necessary work. Some starving just needs to happen. No? Not good logic? Then explain to me why your life matters more than farm worker lives?
    - ng12 7y ago
      Zero exposure for someone working on a farm is utterly unrealistic.
      - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
        Zero exposure is probably unrealistic for everyone, but it's not unrealistic to give farm workers disposable masks, gloves, hand sanitizers, and washing stations, put effort into keeping them six feet apart as they work, and provide sufficient paid leave so they don't feel pressure to keep working even if they believe they're sick. I think that's really what we're talking about here.
        therealdrag0 7y ago
        "As they work" is not the problem. Many of them are migrant worker who will reside in temporary housing akin to a bunk-house/dorm. They will be very exposed to the many people they are living with.

But some people are going to have to be exposed. Farmworker's exposure helps us flatten the curve.

by ng12 7y ago

But some people are going to have to be exposed. Farmworker's exposure helps us flatten the curve.

Sure. Except if reports are to be believed coronavirus carrying foods could survive the trip from farm to table and infect people nationwide rapidly.

ng12 7y ago
If so that'll happen no matter what. Packaged food will be handled by multiple people before it gets into the consumer's hands.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
  Force farms to implement social distancing. Just use a drone. Immediate shut down for noncompliance. Owner goes to jail, farm and equipment get seized nationalized and sold back to the public. Illegals get deported, legals get unemployment. It takes everyone making sacrifices to stop the spread. Especially the landowners and leaders.

groby_b 7y ago

That... I'm sorry, but that's just an utterly uninformed take. Nobody "has" to be exposed, protective gear would work just fine. And no, exposing farmworkers doesn't help to flatten the curve. The curve would be equally flat if they weren't exposed. What you just said is "Somebody has to die, let's kill the farmworkers so we're safe". You might want to rethink. What we need to do is stop exploiting them. They're not at high risk because they need to be, they're at high risk because we're not paying them well. Because we withhold even the options for basic hygiene for them. Because we value profit over human life.

ng12 7y ago
I'm not saying we shouldn't take all precautions we can. I'm saying it's necessary work and some exposure needs to happen.
- groby_b 7y ago
  No, some exposure does not need to happen. You could bring in the harvest just fine without exposure. We're choosing not to, because it'd cost precious money, and that's the god we'd like to worship. With the exact same kind of logic you use, one could also argue that it's not necessary work. Some starving just needs to happen. No? Not good logic? Then explain to me why your life matters more than farm worker lives?
  - ng12 7y ago
    Zero exposure for someone working on a farm is utterly unrealistic.
    - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
      Zero exposure is probably unrealistic for everyone, but it's not unrealistic to give farm workers disposable masks, gloves, hand sanitizers, and washing stations, put effort into keeping them six feet apart as they work, and provide sufficient paid leave so they don't feel pressure to keep working even if they believe they're sick. I think that's really what we're talking about here.
      - therealdrag0 7y ago
        "As they work" is not the problem. Many of them are migrant worker who will reside in temporary housing akin to a bunk-house/dorm. They will be very exposed to the many people they are living with.