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Are we supposed to care that ICANN's feelings are hurt? Hopefully this is a step to replacing ICANN with something better. If you think ICANN is some sort of m

by drcode 7y ago

Are we supposed to care that ICANN's feelings are hurt? Hopefully this is a step to replacing ICANN with something better. If you think ICANN is some sort of magical organization that should get to decide all TLDs, just vote with your feet and don't use Opera.

CydeWeys 7y ago
ICANN's feelings are irrelevant here. The point is that they control the DNS root servers and no one else does, so anyone claiming to operate a TLD that isn't actually in the root servers is gonna have a bad time. Think of what a disaster this is going to be if .crypto is launched for real in a few years. Opera is likely going to go with the real .crypto in the root DNS, thus dumping all these blockchain ones, but even if they don't, there's the problem that now .crypto domains will resolve differently in Opera than in all other browsers. That is a security/usability nightmare. > If you think ICANN is some sort of magical organization that should get to decide all TLDs There's nothing magical about ICANN whatsoever, and the normative claim you're making here is irrelevant. They are the organization that decides TLDs, period, and pretending that they aren't when the other 99.999% of users and devices on the Internet do use root DNS and root DNS only is a recipe for disaster.
- konschubert 7y ago
  The ICANN .crypto might simply not get launched or fail after launch if the name is already taken.
  - CydeWeys 7y ago
    If they haven't delegated it yet then it's by definition not yet taken as far as they're concerned, and they're the ones that make these decisions. Let me put it in different terms: ICANN currently has a monopoly on the issuance of new TLDs that has so far banked hundreds of millions of dollars for them. There's no way in hell they're going to voluntarily give up this monopoly and just let any random people start a new TLD without going through them.
bdcravens 7y ago
> the system is riding on top of the existing DNS rather than operating as an alternative I assume that if .crypto becomes a TLD, Opera will default to DNS lookup first.

by drcode 7y ago

CydeWeys 7y ago

ICANN's feelings are irrelevant here. The point is that they control the DNS root servers and no one else does, so anyone claiming to operate a TLD that isn't actually in the root servers is gonna have a bad time. Think of what a disaster this is going to be if .crypto is launched for real in a few years. Opera is likely going to go with the real .crypto in the root DNS, thus dumping all these blockchain ones, but even if they don't, there's the problem that now .crypto domains will resolve differently in Opera than in all other browsers. That is a security/usability nightmare. > If you think ICANN is some sort of magical organization that should get to decide all TLDs There's nothing magical about ICANN whatsoever, and the normative claim you're making here is irrelevant. They are the organization that decides TLDs, period, and pretending that they aren't when the other 99.999% of users and devices on the Internet do use root DNS and root DNS only is a recipe for disaster.

konschubert 7y ago
The ICANN .crypto might simply not get launched or fail after launch if the name is already taken.
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  If they haven't delegated it yet then it's by definition not yet taken as far as they're concerned, and they're the ones that make these decisions. Let me put it in different terms: ICANN currently has a monopoly on the issuance of new TLDs that has so far banked hundreds of millions of dollars for them. There's no way in hell they're going to voluntarily give up this monopoly and just let any random people start a new TLD without going through them.

bdcravens 7y ago

> the system is riding on top of the existing DNS rather than operating as an alternative I assume that if .crypto becomes a TLD, Opera will default to DNS lookup first.