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No one in the real world (outside of the hn bubble) actually cares about privacy, and only enterprise cares about security. > need to respect the users longer
by soared 7y ago
No one in the real world (outside of the hn bubble) actually cares about privacy, and only enterprise cares about security.
> need to respect the users longer term as opposed to selling them like commodity to investors and advertisers?
This is the opposite of the truth? There is no /market/ need to respect users, the intention is to sell them to advertisers/etc. Your comment is just conflating your personal (And hn's) moral views of privacy with how markets actually work in the real world.
Edit - I don't mean to be a dick, but you can't just push your morals on the world and say thats how the world should work.
- thinkharderdev 7y agoI think this argument proves too much. It is true that most users don't care or even understand the security and privacy issues in the software that they use but that doesn't mean product developers shouldn't care. It is the precise reason that product developers HAVE to care because they in fact understand the danger (or should anyway) and should protect their users from them. I could just as easily say that "users don't care whether we hash their passwords in our database so why waste the CPU cycles" and I would be right. The vast majority of users don't know anything about storing passwords securely, but 1. They absolutely care if their passwords get pilfered and used to access their accounts. 2. We still have an ethical responsibility to protect people from dangers that we know full well can cause them harm even if they don't understand what those dangers are.
- soared 7y agoI agree, you make a good point. In that sense maybe privacy and security could be a means to achieve something else that users do actually care about. (ex. I don't want strangers in my zoom calls, so please make them secure)