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Is Bill willing to pay for it? I really don't want to see anything from the mega billionaires right now other than zeros on the checks they are giving to charit

Is Bill willing to pay for it? I really don't want to see anything from the mega billionaires right now other than zeros on the checks they are giving to charity, government, and people.

ceejayoz 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundat... > As of 2018, Bill and Melinda Gates had donated around $36 billion to the foundation. Yes, he is.
- Simulacra 7y ago
  "As of 2018..donated around $36 billion to the foundation.." You mean Bill's foundation? How about as of April 1st, 2020 how much as Bill and Melinda given in billions separate from their foundation? Is there something more...current you can find?
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    You've moved the goalposts so far we're playing a different sport. I know March 2020 seemed like a decade, but 2018 is a pretty recent number, and $36B is a pretty big number even if it's two years old.
    - Simulacra 7y ago
      No, someone pulled up something from 2018. You may not have noticed but things are considerably different between 2018 and right now. We’re in a totally different world. Did you find something a little more current?
    - Simulacra 7y ago
      Forgive me for second commenting, but I missed one salient point: the genesis of this discussion is that Bill Gates would like the entire economy to shut down. My argument is that gates should instead be looking to inject significantly more cash separate from his foundation, directly into our economy, before he starts demanding the economy shut down.
    - Simulacra 7y ago
      Did you find anything more current, yet?
    - Simulacra 7y ago
      It's been 9 days. Did you find something more current?
  - MperorM 7y ago
    Why should they give something seperate? Their charity is among the most effective. Should Bill be willing to let people die whom their foundation could have saved just to please those who think it's self-serving? B&M Gates recognized most charities aren't particularly effective, and that there were few places they could convert their cash to QALY's. They created a foundation which effectively does that and now pour their money into it. I don't exactly understand what they should have done instead. Settle for a worse charity that would save fewer lives?
- Overtonwindow 7y ago
  I did a quick Google search to try to find what the Gates foundation is doing, but I’m with OP. We are in uncharted waters here, it would be helpful to have a full understanding of what they are doing right now.
johnwheeler 7y ago
Rich-bashing is so unproductive. You do realize he runs a huge charitable foundation and has pledged half his money to it, right? Why are you mad at “the billionaires”? Why can’t they have a voice and a platform? Because they’re rich and out of touch? What evidence do you have of that?
- Simulacra 7y ago
  I’m not mad at the billionaires, I’m disappointed. If I could direct your attention away from the hyperbole and to what I actually said: Bill and Melinda may give tons of money to their foundation, and he may have pledge to give away all of his money to his foundation, but I would like to see where he is giving money personally to other places. I don’t hate Bill Gates really any billionaire, but I’m deeply suspicious when everything is basically circular going into their foundation and their causes.

Is Bill willing to pay for it? I really don't want to see anything from the mega billionaires right now other than zeros on the checks they are giving to charity, government, and people.

ceejayoz 7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundat... > As of 2018, Bill and Melinda Gates had donated around $36 billion to the foundation. Yes, he is.

Simulacra 7y ago
"As of 2018..donated around $36 billion to the foundation.." You mean Bill's foundation? How about as of April 1st, 2020 how much as Bill and Melinda given in billions separate from their foundation? Is there something more...current you can find?
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  You've moved the goalposts so far we're playing a different sport. I know March 2020 seemed like a decade, but 2018 is a pretty recent number, and $36B is a pretty big number even if it's two years old.
  - Simulacra 7y ago
    No, someone pulled up something from 2018. You may not have noticed but things are considerably different between 2018 and right now. We’re in a totally different world. Did you find something a little more current?
  - Simulacra 7y ago
    Forgive me for second commenting, but I missed one salient point: the genesis of this discussion is that Bill Gates would like the entire economy to shut down. My argument is that gates should instead be looking to inject significantly more cash separate from his foundation, directly into our economy, before he starts demanding the economy shut down.
  - Simulacra 7y ago
    Did you find anything more current, yet?
  - Simulacra 7y ago
    It's been 9 days. Did you find something more current?
- MperorM 7y ago
  Why should they give something seperate? Their charity is among the most effective. Should Bill be willing to let people die whom their foundation could have saved just to please those who think it's self-serving? B&M Gates recognized most charities aren't particularly effective, and that there were few places they could convert their cash to QALY's. They created a foundation which effectively does that and now pour their money into it. I don't exactly understand what they should have done instead. Settle for a worse charity that would save fewer lives?
Overtonwindow 7y ago
I did a quick Google search to try to find what the Gates foundation is doing, but I’m with OP. We are in uncharted waters here, it would be helpful to have a full understanding of what they are doing right now.

johnwheeler 7y ago

Rich-bashing is so unproductive. You do realize he runs a huge charitable foundation and has pledged half his money to it, right? Why are you mad at “the billionaires”? Why can’t they have a voice and a platform? Because they’re rich and out of touch? What evidence do you have of that?

Simulacra 7y ago
I’m not mad at the billionaires, I’m disappointed. If I could direct your attention away from the hyperbole and to what I actually said: Bill and Melinda may give tons of money to their foundation, and he may have pledge to give away all of his money to his foundation, but I would like to see where he is giving money personally to other places. I don’t hate Bill Gates really any billionaire, but I’m deeply suspicious when everything is basically circular going into their foundation and their causes.