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We have no idea if there is any major outbreak in India or not right now. Absence of evidence != Evidence of absence
by Legogris 7y ago
We have no idea if there is any major outbreak in India or not right now. Absence of evidence != Evidence of absence
- elorant 7y agoIf there was an outbreak there would be bodies piling up somewhere.
- mkl 7y agoIt takes time to die of it. The true size of an untested outbreak would only be visible well after it's established.
- notahacker 7y agoAlso, the visibility is somewhat more limited in India on the basis that much of the most vulnerable population wouldn't access the healthcare system anyway and the symptoms wouldn't especially stand out in a country where regular pneumonia kills a child every couple of minutes.
- rinka_singh 7y agoThis is not the case anymore. Access is available especially since we know that leaving an infected person in the open will infect a lot others...
- adrianN 7y agoI wouldn't be surprised if you didn't notice people dying in the slums.
- elorant 7y agoIn which case there would be quarantined areas. Haven't read anything in the news. I don't live in India, but I don't think that in an interconnected world something like that would go unnoticed.
- hesarenu 7y agoi suppose you think in India corpse are rotting on streets with nobody to care
- adrianN 7y agoNo, but I think that poor people dying takes a long time to show up in statistics. A few thousand extra deaths per day are easy to miss.
- hesarenu 7y agoA few thousand extra deaths per day are easy to miss - we might be a 3rd world country but we are not that shitty.
- Legogris 7y agoI think this can hold in any country today, regardless of how developed you consider it to be. Slums not necessary. Less true in smaller countries like Iceland or the Vatican, of course, but I think this has way more to do with population size than progression.
- worldexplorer 7y agoThis has more to do with information flow and reporting structure in healthcare care system not population size.
- modiisamoron 7y agoYeah, you really are that shitty.
- worldexplorer 7y agoHaving explored information flow in Indian healthcare system in detail, statistics may not be as accurate but few thousands extra deaths are not easy at all to miss.
- rinka_singh 7y ago
- jeswin 7y agoIf there are a significant number of deaths in India, it will not go unnoticed; whether they happen in slums or elsewhere. India has chaotic but functional healthcare reporting and oversight, and they're actively tracking the epidemic with whatever means they have at their disposal. In short, infections may well go unnoticed because of limited testing. But deaths will be recorded.
- worldexplorer 7y agoYes. Having explored information flow in Indian healthcare system in detail, I can say significant number of deaths due to particular disease will not go unnoticed.
- kjsingh 7y agohttps://www.dw.com/en/india-children-grapple-with-the-aftermath-of-farmer-suicides/a-51213478 https://www.dw.com/en/india-children-grapple-with-the-afterm...
- rinka_singh 7y agoThis cannot happen. EVERYONE in the country is aware of the situation and the slum dwellers would themselves call out anyone who shows symptoms (well before the person died). Having said that, we do have incidents of groups who hide/protect people who are potentially infected. There are ongoing efforts to persuade communities (especially in identified hotspots) to come for testing and tracking but then these are the challenges of a large and diverse country.
- owaislone 7y agoThis is exactly how people in the worst affected countries thought at similar stages and look what they are dealing with now. It pains me to say this but there will be. It can take up to 14 days for symptoms to show up. A lot of people don't even show any symptoms but keep spreading it. I hope the lock down helps India but we've not yet seen how much it had spread before the lock down. We'll see that in the next 1-2 weeks. BTW 10 people died since this morning in India of covid-19.